AgendaY CITY OF RANCHO MIRAGE
CITY COUNCIL,
LIBRARY AND OBSERVATORY BOARD,
HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD,
AND THE CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTING
THE REDEVELOPMENT SUCCESSOR AGENCY
City of Rancho Mirage
City Hall -Council Chamber
69-825 Highway 111
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
CALL TO ORDER
a) Flag Salute
REGULAR MEETING
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 3, 2019
1:00 P.M.i,ii
AGENDA
b) Roll Call: Kite, Townsend, Weill, Hobart, Smotrich.
PRESENT A liONS
Update on The Living Desert Zoo and Gardens.
NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS-An opportunity for the public to speak on issues that are not
on the agenda for a maximum of three minutes per speaker.
CITY COUNCIL/BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS/REPORTS
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
MINUTES September 19, 2019 Regular Meeting.
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CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Waive Full Reading of All Ordinances Introduced or Adopted Pursuant to this Agenda.
2 . Adopt Ordinance No. 1156, 2nd Reading, Adding Chapter 8.63 (Camping Regulations) to
Title 8 (Health and Safety), Amending Section 8.26.020 (Use Restrictions) of Chapter
8.26 (City Park and Recreation Facility Regulations), and Amending Section 9.30.200
Camping) of Chapter 9.30 (Use of Library and Observatory) of the Rancho Mirage
Municipal Code.
3 . Contracts.
4 . Demands.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
5. Environmental Assessment Case No . EA190004, Zoning Text Amendment Case
No . ZTA19002, Development Agreement Case No. DA190001, Conditional Use Permit
Case No. CUP19007, and Preliminary Development Case No . PDP19002 -In-N-Out
Burgers (Rancho Las Palmas Shopping Center).
A. Filing of a Categorical Exemption of Environmental Impact pursuant to CEQA
Sect ion 15332 (Class 32) -lnfill Development Project and Env ironmental
Assessment Case No. EA 190004;
B. Ordinance No . (Next in Order), 1st Reading, approving Zoning Text Amendment
Case No. ZTA19002;
C. Ordinance No. (Next in Order), 1st Reading, approving Development Agreement
Case No. DA 190001;
D. Conditional Use Permit Case No . CUP19007; and
E. Preliminary Development Case No . PDP19002.
ACTION CALENDAR
6 . Resolution No. 2019-(Next in Order), Declaring the City's Intention to Annex Territory to
Community Facilities District No. 1 and to Levy a Special Tax therein for Additional Police
and Fire Services, Preliminarily Approve a Map of the Area Proposed to be Annexed, and
Schedule a Public Hearing to Consider the Annexation and the Levy of the Special Tax
for Annexation No. 181. (Tower Market)
7. Approval of Final Parcel Map No. 37486-Tower Market.
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CLOSED SESSION
1. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL-POTENTIAL INITIATION OF LITIGATION
Pursuant to Government Code Section 54956 .9(d)(4). (Three Potential Cases)
2 . CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL-EXISTING LITIGATION
Pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9(d)(1)
Case Name Unspecified: Disclosure of case name will jeopardize existing settlement
negotiations .
ADJOURNMENT
i People with disabilities are encouraged to attend . If you have special communication or access needs, please
contact the City Clerk's office at (760) 324-4511 in advance of the meeting.
ii Staff reports for all agenda items considered in open session, and any writings or documents provided to a majority
of the legi slative bodies regarding any item on this agenda, are available for public inspection at City Hall, at the
Rancho Mirage Library & ObseNatory, and on the City's website at www.RanchoMirageCa .gov.
Declaration of Posting:
I, f:(v;&t-\e_ ~vroS , C--(~C..\er-\(._ of the City of Rancho Mirage, do hereby
declare that a copy of the foregoing eetmg Notice/Agenda was personally delivered to the legislative
bodies, posted in the City Hall posting box, at the Rancho Mirage Library & Observatory, and on the City
website at least 72 hours in advance of the meeting.
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LETTERS OF SUPPORT
Majna Dukie
From:
Sent:
To:
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
Friday, October 4, 2019 10:33 AM
Majna Dukie
Subject: FW: ln-N-Out, I'm in favor
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
Development Services Director
Phone: 760-328-2266 Ext. 262
E-mail: jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov
69-825 Highway 111, Rancho Mirage, California, 92270
www.RanchoMirageCa .gov
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From: Iris Smotrich <iriss@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2019 8:15 AM
Subject: Fwd: ln-N -Out, I'm in favor
FYI ..
Iris Smotrich
Mayor
Phone: 760-324-4511 Ext. 203
E-mail: iriss@RanchoMirageCA.gov
69-825 Highway 111, Rancho Mirage, California, 92270
www .RanchoMirageCa .gov
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From: Marek Tari <tarimarek@yahoo .com >
Date: October 3, 2019 at 4:04:36 PM PDT
To: "iriss@ranchomirageca .gov " <iriss@ranchomirageca .gov>
Subject: ln-N-Out, I'm in favor
Good afternoon Madame Mayor,
I was at the meeting and wanted to speak but I work as an independent bookkeeper
and needed to get back to my clients and they hadn't called my name so I had to leave.
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First, I feel you and the council have done an outstanding job in your management of
Rancho Mirage. We are probably the only city who has fully funded their PERS
liability. I have nothing but confidence for you, as our current Mayor and the
council. The handling of the CV Link is just one of many things the council has handled
in what I feel was an appropriate manner.
As for ln-N -O ut, I am in favor of it. I have lived at Lake Mirage for just over 18 years
and as an independent bookkeeper do a bit of driving. A quick drive thru ln -N-Out
would be wonderful for lunch. Also great for our first responders to grab a quick bite at.
The Las Palmas shopping center desperately needs new blood and people from other
areas driving in for a burger may find things they hadn't realized were there and those
other store may get new customers.
I have faith the city will do what is best for the majority and not the minority.
Thank you so much for your serv ice,
Tari Marek
143 Lake Shore Dr.
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
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-----Forwarded Message-----
From: Dave Teufel <teuf2743@earthlink.net>
Sent: Oct 3, 2019 10:11 AM
To : iriss@ranchomirage .gov, danah@ranchomirage.gov, richardk@ranchomirage.gov,
char lest@ranchomirage .gov, tedw@ranchomirage.gov
Subject: ln-N-Out for Rancho Las Palmas shopping center
We wanted to weigh in on this controversy that should not be a controversy. We are
100% behind this happening. We have personally driven down Magnesia Falls
Drive . With FOUR speed bumps NO ONE is going to use their street as a short cut. With
a right turn only at their street when exiting on the south of the shopping center you
must go up to HYWY 111, so no one will go down their street . So this argument is bogus.
The other bogus argument is noise. Really? Go stand out side any ln-N-Out and tell me
where the noise is. Cars are in line at the window and people park and go in like any
other restaurant . We do not have "gangs" hanging around in parking lots anywhere in
RM.
This will also be a magnet for other retail people to come in Las Palmas and fill the
empty stores.
Their threatened law suit is also bogus. Please vote to put in the restaurant.
Respectfully, David and Joan Teufel, 5 Malaga Dr ., RM in Sunrise Country Club .
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From: <anngreer@earthlink .net>
Date: October 3, 2019 at 1:04:55 PM PDT
To: <tedw@ranchomirageca.gov >, <iriss@ranchomirageca .gov >,
<danah@ranchomirageca.gov >, <richardk@ranchomirageca .gov >,
<charlest@ranchomirageca.gov >
Subject: Inn Out Burger in RM -YEAH!!
Hi, just want to express my support for the In n Out Burger in Rancho Mirage. I live in
Palm Desert, so I cannot vote for you, BUT I can tell you that I will support the city by
buying food from In 'n Out Burger, once it opens!
Thanks,
Ann Greer, Palm Desert
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FYI
Text message from Ron Hare, tenant in RLP Shopping Center.
Hi
Norma and I are on a plane today so can't be at meeting tomorrow
But we do encourage Council to approve the In and Out in Rancho Las Palmas Shopping
Center
Best regards to you
Ron and Norma Hare
Majna Dukie
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Subject:
Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
Wednesday, October 2, 2019 8:26 AM
Jeremy Gleim, AICP; Majna Dukie
FW : YES TO INN OUT IN RANCHO MIRAGE
Isaiah Hag e rm a n, CPA
City Manager
Phone : 760-324-4511 Ext. 232
E-mail: isaiahh@RanchoMirageCA.gov
69-825 Highway 111, Rancho Mirage , California, 92270
www .RanchoM irageCa.gov
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From: Nancy Donnell <naniloa123@hotmail.com>
"i ent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 9:47 PM
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To: Isaiah Hagerman, CPA <isaiahh@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: YES TO INN OUT IN RANCHO MIRAGE
Hi Isaiah,
My husband and I live in Magnesia Falls Cove and strongly approve the addition of IN n OUT to our local
shopping center. We do not see any negatives and look forward to frequenting a business that is a winner in
any city.
Thank you for making our vote count in our absence from Thursday's meeting. We are stuck in San Diego and
cannot attend.
Nancy and William Donnell
71467 Mirage Rd
Rancho Mirage Ca 92270
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Majna Dukie
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Saturday, September 28, 2019 10:45 AM
Majna Dukie
Subject:
Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
Fwd: In N Out
Sent from my iPhone
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Jeremy Gleim, AICP
Development Services Director
Phone: 760-328-2266 Ext. 262
E-mail: jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov
69-825 Highway 111, Rancho Mirage, California, 92270
www.RanchoMirageCa.gov
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From: Susan Andrea Gadban <susanandrea8@gmail.com>
Date: September 28, 2019 at 10:30:35 AM PDT
To: jeremyg@ranchomirageca.gov
Subject: In N Out
I want it on record that my husband and I totally support the In N Out in Rancho Mirage. It will be a good
addition to the shopping plaza as I call it. There are so many areas that are unoccupied. We want a
thriving community not a ghost town!
Thank you
S.Gadban
Sent from my iPhone
Majna Dukie
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To:
Subject:
Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
Tuesday, October 1, 2019 3:11 PM
Jeremy Gleim, AICP; Majna Dukie
FW:
Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
City Manager
Phone: 760-324-4511 Ext. 232
E-mail : isaiahh@RanchoMirageCA .gov
69-825 Highway 111, Rancho Mirage, California, 92270
www .Ran choM ira qeCa .gov
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From: Robert Karl <rancholaspalmasdental@yahoo.com>
)ent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 3:00 PM
'ro: Iris Smotrich <iriss@RanchoMirageCA.gov>; Dana Hobart <danah@RanchoMirageCA.gov>; Charles Townsend
<Charlest@RanchoMirageCA.gov>; Richard W. Kite <richardk@RanchoMirageCA.gov>; Ted Weill
<tedw@RanchoMirageCA.gov>; Isaiah Hagerman, CPA <isaiahh@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Cc: Robert Karl Rm <rjkarljr@aol.com>
Subject:
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From: Doc <rjkarljr@aol.com>
To: "rancho laspa lm asdental@yahoo .com " <rancholaspalmasdental@yahoo .com>
Cc: "rjkarljr@aol.com" <r jkarljr@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 1 , 2019, 02:44 :27 PM PDT
Subject: In N Out Support
Good afternoon,
I am Dr. Robert Karl Jr. DDS . My dental office was established in Rancho Las Palmas Shopping Center in 1994 and I
remain in this location today. I plan on attending the Planning Commission meeting today but have to leave at 2:45 and so
I am submitting this letter of support.
I fully support the application of ln"N Out to locate in this shopping center .
. )in the 25 years of being in this location I have seen the evolution of this shopping center from vibrant and fully occupied in
the 1990's to a failed , nearly vacant center in 2015.
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Today we are becoming a vibrant member of the Rancho Mirage business community again , and this application is a
great opportunity to fully complete and return this Center to its optimum potential.
. This is after all, a Shopping Center as it was originally planned . Its intent is to draw customers to its anchor stores as well
' ·\.as its food and service tenants. Shoppers come to take advantage of all of the services offered as intended .
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In N Out will be a great complement to Rancho Las Palmas Shopping Center and will help in fulfilling the intent of the
Center's original purpose for serving the Rancho Mirage Community.
I have every confidence that our professional planning and administrative staff will guide this project to a smooth and
successful completion .
Sincerely,
Robert Karl Jr. DDS , MPH
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DearTed
I live about 4 blocks from this location on Mirage Road at 71586.
Caprice and I support the zone change and building permit approval.
A couple of points-
Businesses in RM fund many of our services and amenities ... we try to spend money in RM for this
reason.
We favor building out and occupied space in both the River and Rancho las Palmas .... see above.
Workers have to travel a good distance for an economical lunch and to some extent traffic may be
improved .
Finally, a small matter ..
I hope that the store is encouraged to manage their litter as that is a chronic issue with some
fast food locations.
Please enter our comments in the record and in support of approval.
Again, thank you and all of the council for making RM the very best community in valley!!! We support
you and the council.
Jack Mowreader
Caprice Leinonen
760 880 4612
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Majna Dukie
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Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
Wednesday, October 2, 2019 6:23 PM
Jeremy Gleim, AICP; Majna Dukie
FW : Support for ln-N -Out Burger Location at Rancho Las Palmas
Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
City Manager
Phone: 760-324-4511 Ext. 232
E-mail: isaiahh@RanchoMirageCA.gov
69-825 Highway 111, Rancho Mirage, California, 92270
www.RanchoMirageCa.gov
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From: rebel6179@aol.com <rebel6179@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 3:17 PM
To: Isaiah Hagerman, CPA <isaiahh@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: Support for ln-N-Out Burger Location at Rancho Las Palmas
To the City Manager of Rancho Mirage:
I am a resident of Rancho Mirage, living in Morningside Country Club . I have lived in Rancho Mirage at other
locations since 2012. I consider Rancho Mirage to be one of the best cities in the Coachella Valley, being
central to the Valley and in the neighborhood of Eisenhower Medical Center. I am writing to show my full
support for opening an ln -N-Out Burger location in the Rancho Las Palmas shopping center. Being a resident
of Rancho Mirage for many years, I have seen, and still see, vacant commercial openings at the Rancho Las
Palmas shopping center and at The River. I fully support adding any business to either location that
promotes new business and would help add commercial customers to existing businesses there. I know
there are opposing views on the subject. However, the location is at a shopping center. It is at a commercial
business location. ln-N -Out Burger is a successful franchise. I don't understand why Rancho Mirage
wouldn't jump at the chance to add such a successful business to an existing commercial shopping
center. That's the intent of having a shopping center.
I hope the Planning Commission will approve moving forward to allow the ln-N-Out Burger location to
proceed. If I weren't still working full time, I would attend the Thursday meeting in person to show my
support. Unfortunately, I am unable to attend in person.
Thank you for your consideration.
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Sincerely,
Carl Gilmore
54 Mayfair Drive
Rancho Mirage CA 92270
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Majna Dukie
From:
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To:
Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
Thursday, October 3, 2019 8:34 AM
Jeremy Gleim, AICP; Majna Dukie
Subject: Fwd : In n Out Support from Richard Roger
Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
City Manager
Phone: 760-324-4511 Ext . 232
E-mail: isaiahh@RanchoMirageCA.gov
69-825 Highway 111, Rancho Mirage, California, 92270
www.RanchoMirageCa.gov
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Begin forwarded message:
From: Iris Smotrich <ladyirism@gmail.com>
Date : October 3, 2019 at 8:29:00 AM PDT
To: isaiahh@RanchoMirageCA.gov
Subject: In n Out Support from Richard Roger
From:":" <rrogermd@aol.com>
Date: October 3, 2019 at 8:00:56 AM PDT
To: ladyirism@gmail.com
Hi: Good luck today ; hope it's not too stressful. I don't eat fast foods but I support
approval of In N Out's project/ plan .
Richard
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GENESIS HOTEL DEVELOPMENT LLC.
October 3, 2019
Chairman and Members of the City Council
City of Rancho Mirage
69825 CA-111
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
Mr. Chairman and Councilors,
I am Francis A. Wong and reside at 77327 Chocolate Mountain Road, Indian Wells, CA.
Because of a previous engagement I am unable to attend in person today but would like to
submit this letter in support the application ofln-N Out Berger.
I am the chairman and CEO of Genesis Hotel Development LLC, which for the past two
years have been a consultant to Oasis Ranch in its development of its plans for Rancho Mirage
Country Club. As some of you know, we did most of the financial engineering, costing and
proforma work after much community research. I have also served as the chairman of both the
planning and architectural committee and the planning commission of the City of Indian wells.
While not a resident of Rancho Mirage, I know the City well through our work with
Oasis Ranch and being a resident of the Valley for almost 20 years.
I urge that the Commission support the application ofln-N Out since the project is will be
an asset to the community. It has been said that "Success breeds success". I an1 confident that
through its market research In-N Out is convinced that Las Palmas is the right location for them
and its track record of being in successful locations speaks for itself. Its success will translate to
more business for the other tenants at Las Palmas and the area, which will insure that there will
be a critical mass of retail and restaurants and your residents will have good choices.
In closing, I would like to share a personal story. My brother, Jerry, a restauranteur, is
relocating from North Dakota and is looking for a restaurant site in the Valley. He is now
revisiting a location in Las Palmas because ofln-N out. He wants to be part of their success!
Thank you and God Bless!
fully Submitted, ~-+--J-....___,_.....,...,-c
cis A. Wong
Chairman and CEO
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Majna Dukie
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Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
Thursday, October 3, 2019 10:18 AM
Jeremy Gleim, AICP; Majna Dukie
FW: ln-N-Out for Rancho Las Palmas shopping center
From: Dave Teufel <teuf2743@earthlink.net>
Sent: Oct 3, 2019 10:11 AM
To : iriss@ranchomirage.gov, danah@ranchomirage.gov, richardk@ranchomirage .gov,
charlest@ranchomirage .gov, tedw@ranchomirage.gov
Subject: ln-N-Out for Rancho Las Palmas shopping center
We wanted to weigh in on this controversy that should not be a controversy. We are
100% behind this happening. We have personally driven down Magnesia Falls
Drive. With FOUR speed bumps NO ONE is going to use their street as a short cut. With
a right turn only at their street when exiting on the south of the shopping center you
must go up to HYWY 111, so no one will go down their street. So this argument is bogus.
The other bogus argument is noise. Really? Go stand out side any ln-N-Out and tell me
where the noise is. Cars are in line at the window and people park and go in like any
other restaurant. We do not have "gangs" hanging around in parking lots anywhere in
RM.
This will also be a magnet for other retail people to come in Las Palmas and fill the
empty stores.
Their threatened law suit is also bogus . Please vote to put in the restaurant.
Respectfully, David and Joan Teufel, 5 Malaga Dr., RM in Sunrise Country Club.
Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
City Manager
Phone : 760-324-4511 Ext . 232
E-mail : isaiahh@RanchoMirageCA.gov
69-825 Highway 111 , Rancho Mirage, California, 92270
www.RanchoMirageCa.gov
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From: Mike Ziskind <mdziskind@gmail.com>
Date: October 3, 2019 at 10:24:28 AM PDT
To: tedw@ranchomirageca.gov
Subject: In and out
Councilman,
After being bombarded at the shopping center by the sign wielding gang who couldn't
shoot straight, my partner and I want you to know we strongly support the project. It's a
world class business and will be an asset to our world class city . It's a coup to get them
to locate in Rancho Mirage . What do the ladies think they have there, Rodeo Drive??
(Now ... if we can only get the Dickey's in that struggling center to get rid of their overly
bright and glary prison/ghetto lights which can be seen from 111, cheapen and degrade
the look and feel of the shopping center and also the surrounding neighborhood. The
spill out is ghastly) . That is actually something serious and detrimental which the
protesting ladies should be raising cain about. I plan to bring the ghetto lights up at my
first traffic safety commission meeting next week, and also share with code enf.
Thank u for everything you to to make Rancho Mirage the world class city I chose to
become a part of.
Mike Ziskind, 25 Sierra Vista Drive
mdziskind@gma ii .com
760 399 0976
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Majna Dukie
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sactopat@aol.com
Thursday, October 3, 2019 11 :05 AM
Majna Dukie
Support for In and Out
I live most of the year in Folsom, Ca, and I have a residence in Victoria Falls where I am today. I vote
in favor of the In and Out project. I visit several In and outs in the Sacramento area, specifically
Folsom, a city of 60000 where I live and the unit is just off the freeway 50, and a main thoroughfare .
Traffic is not an issue, nor is noise. I also go to one in the Arden Arcade area of Sacramento, and
steps are always taken to keep traffic moving and from backing up. An attendant is outside at busy
times to take orders, rain or shine, and down here it does not rain too much.
The place will benefit all hotels in addition to residents. I talked to a woman yesterday who called
me from iFlorida, who told me that she had been to California once a few months ago, and had her
first In and Out Burger and loved it This happened while I was driving to the unit on Varner
Road. True story.
There are xenophobes everywhere, and the NOs are always louder than the YESes .. The location
is great for shoppers at Westfield or at Desert Crossing as well as locals and folks at the Omni and
ritz Carlton hotels among others. and so I vote yes to approve the project.
Mark C Jacobs
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September 10, 2019
City of Rancho Mirage
Members of the Rancho Mirage Planning Commission
69-825 Highway 111
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
RECEIVED
CI TY OF P;\:iC;l(J h'': '.f:~
19 SEP I I PM 12 : 58
SUBJECT: HOMEOWNER IN FAVOR OF IN-N-OUT BURGER PERMIT APPLICATIONS
Honorable Members of the Planning Commission,
My name is Steven Ross and I am a year round resident of the City of Rancho Mirage. I reside at
27 Padron Way in the Rancho Las Palmas Country Club community. The project site is adjacent
to our community.
I am in favor of the proposed project because I believe it will be a welcome addition to our city,
providing a quality product in a suitable location, along with attendant tax revenues.
Beyond that, ln-N-Out Burger is an icon of California culture and a wildly popular brand. At a
Mccallum Theater performance last season Broadway star Kristen Chenowith marched on stage
with her ln-N-Out soda cup held high to a roar of applause. Friends who return to California
after an absence brag that their first stop after the airport is ln-N-Out. We are fortunate to be
able to add this brand to the fabric of our community.
I'm afraid the criticism of this project by some of my neighbors is misguided. Allegations are
made with no factual support. Traffic, economic and other analysis provided to the city
adequately addresses these topics in my view.
Your staff should be commended for the rigorous review of this proposal. The environmental
documentation, zone change, development agreement and site plan have all been handled
thoroughly and professionally.
Thank you for your consideration.
Steven W. Ross
27 Padron Way
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
5-289
Brandini Enterprises, Inc.
42250 Bob Hope Drive
Rancho Mirage, Ca
To whom it may concern,
19 SEP -9 PM ~: 06
I am writing on behalf of Brandini Toffee and the neighboring businesses, whom are all
stakeholders in the upcoming decision to bring ln-N-Out Burger to the Rancho Las Palmas
shopping center. I am in zealous support for this to pass and cannot express enough the
importance of this for our shopping center and for the city.
For what it's worth, here is my rational as to why bringing ln-N -Out Burger into the Rancho Las
Palmas shopping center should have unanimous support:
1. Location -It is no stretch to say that Rancho Mirage should be proud that ln -N-Out Burger
has chosen this site . There have been rumors for years of an additional location coming to
town and every city but Rancho Mirage was anticipated to be the winner. This is an
opportunity any other city would do a backflip for. Residents and visitors of Rancho
Mirage, Palm Desert, Palm Springs, and Cathedral City drive 1 O+ miles to cut their ln -N-Out
cravings . Geographically, this location would become the most accessible ln-N -Out in the
greater Palm Springs area . It is a timeless landmark like this that will attract inter-city traffic
and benefit surrounding businesses in Rancho Mirage.
2. Insurance for the future -We are one of the few tenants that survived the dark time of this
shopping center. 5 short years ago this center was bank-owned and had not much more to
offer than a CVS, Wells Fargo, and a massage parlor. The current owners of this center
took a huge risk to bring it back to life and have done a great job with the revitalization.
Regardless of this, the future is not certain . Tenant turnover started over a year ago and an
anchor like ln-N-Out burger would be insurance that the growth momentum does not slow
down. Take a pole of who anchors this center and odds are the answer will be Starbucks.
Starbucks might not be the biggest tenant, but they are the most powerful brand. Without
a doubt ln-N-Out would be an even larger magnet for traffic and future leasing.
3. Brand Equity-This is something ln -N-Out Burger and Rancho Mirage have greatly in
common. It is a truth universally acknowledged that both institutions strive to be the gold
standard in their respected industry. At face value ln-N -Out is considered fast food, but
any fan will plea that they are far from it. ln-N -Out has a cult-like following that is admired
worldwide. Their focus on safety, quality, and defending their brand makes them the
juggernaut in their industry. Rancho Mirage should rest assured that the exchange of brand
equit y will only be in their benefit should this opportunity come to fruition.
I am aware of several subjective rebuttals to this opportunity and I hope the planning
commission can listen to their instincts when making a decision. My business and many
others joining in on this conversation have great incentive to see this shopping center thrive
and see only upside to welcoming ln-N-Out Burger to the the Rancho Las Palmas community.
Brandon Weimer
Co-Founder
Brandini Toffee
5-290
Jeremy Gleim. AICP
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From: Margie Taft <taftee7@gmail.com>
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Jeremy,
Please circulate this letter attached to show my support of the proposed
In and Out Berger in Rancho Mirage.
Margie Taft
760 408 3159
D Virus -free . www .avast.com
5-291
September 7, 2019
City Council
Margie Taft
18 Calle Encinitas
Rancho Mirage, Ca 92270
(0) 760-408 3159
Taftoffice@gmail .com
City of Rancho Mirage
Planning Commission
69 825 Hwy 111
Rancho Mirage, Ca 92270
Dear City Council
I am a resident of the Rancho Las Palmas Country Club for
many years now. I moved to this incredible location because
of the active developed shopping areas.
I am in full support of the IN AND OUT BURGER at the
Rancho Las Palmas Development as proposed. Please
allow this development, we need vibrant businesses in our
neighborhood. I drive to La Quinta to shop because they
]have so many store options in one neighborhood. Yes
there will be increased traffic but well managed development
is welcome in Rancho Mirage.
Sincerely,
Margie Taft
5-292
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From: michael smith <mvs4661@gmail.com>
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To: Jeremy Gleim, AICP <jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: IN -N-OUT franchise
To the Planning Commission of Rancho Mirage:
I have been a fu ll -time home-owner resident in Rancho Mirage since 1997, as well as the former Region President of the
The Northern Trust Bank until my retirement in 2006. One of our offices was located at the corner of Frank Sinatra and
Highway 111. I also volunteered and served on 22 community boards and committees while running the bank. I still
volunteer on three local boards after many years of retirement (Mccallum Theatre, Palm Springs Art Museum, and
Literary Society of the Desert) because I strongly believe we all have to do whatever we can to help our
community. However, I know fully well how difficult it is to manage a successful, four-season business in this still "part-
time" affluent community.
When I was was recently approached by a local business owner friend to write to you indicating my support for a new
IN-N -O UT franchise in the Las Palmas Shopping Center, I enthusiastically agreed in the affirmative. It is totally ridiculous
some of our Rancho Mirage neighbors are objecting to this new business to be located in an already existing small
shopping center. What do think or want to rent these spaces -personal residences?! I think it is fantastic a business as
well known (and managed) as IN-N-OUT wants to locate in Rancho Mirage -what a compliment to our city!!
As our Planning Commission representatives, please support this new and exciting addition to Rancho Mirage . It is
imperative we all join in to welcome this type of franchise, when something this terrific presents itself to us.
Sincerely,
Michael Smith
54 Mayfair Drive
5-293
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From: brandon brandinitoffee.com <brandon@brandinitoffee.com>
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 3:07 PM
To: Jeremy Gleim, AICP <jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: Brandini Support for ln-N-Out
Jeremy,
I believe you know my stance on this but to officiate things I put it into a letter, please see attached. I hope this can be
shared with others in planning. I regretfully will be out of town and unable to attend the meeting Thursday.
Best Regards,
Brandon Weimer
Brandini Toffee
(760) 702-5576
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Brandini Enterprises, Inc.
42250 Bob Hope Drive
Rancho Mirage, Ca
To whom it may concern ,
I am writing on behalf of Brandini Toffee and the neighboring businesses, whom are all
stakeholders in the upcoming decision to bring ln -N-Out Burger to the Rancho Las Palmas
shopping center. I am in zealous support for this to pass and cannot express enough the
importance of this for our shopping center and for the city.
For what it's worth, here is my rational as to why bringing ln-N -Out Burger into the Rancho Las
Palmas shopping center should have unanimous support:
1. Location-It is no stretch to say that Rancho Mirage should be proud that ln -N-Out Burger
has chosen this site. There have been rumors for years of an additional location coming to
town and every city but Rancho Mirage was anticipated to be the winner. This is an
opportunity any other city would do a backflip for. Residents and visitors of Rancho
Mirage, Palm Desert, Palm Springs, and Cathedral City drive 1 O+ miles to cut their ln -N-Out
cravings. Geographically, this location would become the most accessible ln-N -Out in the
greater Palm Springs area. It is a timeless landmark like this that will attract inter-city traffic
and benefit surrounding businesses in Rancho Mirage.
2. Insurance for the future -We are one of the few tenants that survived the dark time of this
shopping center. 5 short years ago this center was bank-owned and had not much more to
offer than a CVS, Wells Fargo, and a massage parlor. The current owners of this center
took a huge risk to bring it back to life and have done a great job with the revitalization.
Regardless of this, the future is not certain. Tenant turnover started over a year ago and an
anchor like ln-N -Out burger would be insurance that the growth momentum does not slow
down. Take a pole of who anchors this center and odds are the answer will be Starbucks.
Starbucks might not be the biggest tenant, but they are the most powerful brand. Without
a doubt ln-N -Out would be an even larger magnet for traffic and future leasing.
3. Brand Equity-This is something ln -N-Out Burger and Rancho Mirage have greatly in
common. It is a truth universally acknowledged that both institutions strive to be the gold
standard in their respected industry. At face value ln -N-Out is considered fast food, but
any fan will plea that they are far from it. ln-N-Out has a cult-like following that is admired
worldwide. Their focus on safety, quality, and defending their brand makes them the
juggernaut in their industry. Rancho Mirage should rest assured that the exchange of brand
equity will only be in their benefit should this opportunity come to fruition.
I am aware of several subjective rebuttals to this opportunity and I hope the planning
commission can listen to their instincts when making a decision . My business and many
others joining in on this conversation have great incentive to see this shopping center thrive
and see only upside to welcoming ln-N -Out Burger to the the Rancho Las Palmas community.
Brandon Weimer
Co-Founder
Brandini Toffee
5-295
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
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From: DEBBIE WHITSON <djmc07@icloud .com>
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 7:45 PM
To: Jeremy Gleim, AICP <jerem yg@RanchoMirageCA .gov>
Subject: I Support ln -N-Out at Las Palmas Location
I am in SUPPORT of ln -N-Out Burger going in at the Las Palmas shopping center.
I have been an ln-N-Out customer for 27 years.
Having our commercially zoned properties occupied and producing revenue is in the best interest of our city .
The concern of some that this establishment will bring thugs, thieves, pedal-to -the -metal street racers, and litterbugs to
our community is a complete misconception and insult to not only ln-N -Out Burger's loyal customers, but also to our
amazing local law enforcement who I trust fully to handle any matters that may arise due to potential additional traffic.
Via a local neighborhood internet message board, I heard concerns of additional traffic that residents on Magnesia Fa lls
Dr and Joshua Rd . have . I believe a few homeowners who live in that grid created a hype in the community that resulted
in an overreaction and fear based on an exaggerated idea of the unknown impact it will truly have . I believe that most
people will use Hwy 111 as their main access to the site (not the suggested "short cuts" through Joshua Rd.).
When Johnny Rockets (a hamburger joint) went in at the former Ruby's location, no one complained of any "smells" or
traffic concerns.
ln -N-Out Burger is a family oriented business (no alcohol is served there) and I can't wait to have it walking distance to
my home.
I request my voice be heard via this email.
Sincerely,
Debra McDaniel
Tunis Rd .,
Magnesia Falls Cove
Rancho Mirage , CA
debrajean@roadrunn e r .com
5-296
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
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From: Debra Fink <Deb.Fink@ethanallen.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 10:29 AM
To: Jeremy Gleim, AICP <jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: In and Out Burger
We are opening a brand new store across the street and I think having In and Out Burger in Rancho Mirage is a
plus for the community. The more businesses we have to drive people to the community the better. I live in La
Quinta where the most recent In and Out is and it has not created any problems.
Unfortunately I will not be able to attend the special meeting on Thursday .
DEBRA
FINK
DES IGN CENTER MANAGER
Ethan Allen Retail, Inc.
72680 Dinah Shore Drive , Suite 1
Palm Desert, CA 92211
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From: Vicky Starke <vaskundric@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 1:17 PM
To: Jeremy Gleim, AICP <jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: In N Out
Hi Jeremy,
As a resident of Rancho Mirage I would like to give my opinion about the In N Out in Rancho Mirage. I think it will be a
great addition to our city. We need more dining options, especially quick food pick up and take out places .
Thank you,
Vicky
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5-298
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City Manager
Phone : 760 -324-4511 Ext . 232
E-mail : isaiahh@RanchoMirageCA.gov
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From: Dean Bender <dean bender@bhimpact.com >
Date: September 10, 2019 at 2:53:47 PM PDT
To: lsaiaHH@ranchomirageca .gov
Subject: In 'n Out Location
Hello Sir,
I own a residence in Rancho Mirage that I frequent twice a month for long weekends. I'm about to retire
in less than a year and will subsequently be spending a great deal more time in RM. One of our favorite
eating spots is the Rancho Las Palmas Shopping Center where we go for coffee (Starbucks), poke (Haus
of Poke) and Italian (Norma's). I understand that there's a pending decision on whether to bring In 'n
Out into the Center. As a burger lover, we love the idea of it. We find that we have to go into Palm
Desert for a burger and this would make things so much easier for us.
Please consider us huge fans of bringing in In 'n Out Burger to the Rancho Las Palmas Shopping Center.
Dean Bender
Dean G. Bender
President
B/HI (formerly Bender/Helper Impact)
1 5-299
0: (310) 694-3142 C: (310) 490-6666
11500 W. Olympic Blvd. #399 I Los Angeles, CA 90064
www.bhimpact.com
Twitter @dbender @bhimpact
2 5-300
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
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Subject: Lette r in Support of ln-N -Out at Rancho Las Pal mas Shopping Center
Looking forward to having ln -N-Out in Rancho Mirage, at the Rancho Las Palmas Shopping Center! Thank you .
Larry Echelmeyer
(760) 464-0098
5-301
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To: Jeremy Gleim, AICP <jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: Support for ln-N-Out Burger Location at Rancho Las Palmas
To the Planning Commission of Rancho Mirage:
I am a resident of Rancho Mirage, living in Morningside Country Club. I have lived in Rancho Mirage at other
locations since 2012. I consider Rancho Mirage to be one of the best cities in the Coachella Valley , being
central to the Valley and in the neighborhood of Eisenhower Medical Center. I am writing to show my full
support for opening an In-N-Out Burger location in the Rancho Las Palmas shopping center. Being a resident
of Rancho Mirage for many years, I have seen, and still see , vacant commercial openings at the Rancho Las
Palmas shopping center and at The River. I fully support adding any business to either location that promotes
new business and would help add commercial customers to existing businesses there. I know there are
opposing views on the subject. However, the location is at a shopping center. It is at a commercial business
location. In-N-Out Burger is a successful franchise. I don't understand why Rancho Mirage wouldn't jump at
the chance to add such a successful business to an existing commercial shopping center. That's the intent of
having a shopping center.
I hope the Planning Commission will approve moving forward to allow the In-N-Out Burger location to
proceed. If I weren't still working full time , I would attend the Thursday mee ting in person to show my
support. Unfortunately , I am unable to attend in person.
Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely ,
5-302
Carl Gilmore
54 Mayfair Drive
Rancho Mirage CA 92270
2 5-303
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FYI. ..
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From: schweenj@aol.com
Date: September 6, 2019 at 11:05:11 AM PDT
To: jeremyg@ranchomirageca .gov
Subject: In and Out Burger
Please take this message as a positive for the neighborhood . In and Out would be a wonderful addition
to an area lacking a good hamburger place . There are always "loud" naysayers and sometimes they are
the only ones that speak out. ... time for Rancho Mirage to allow something that will bring a lot of business
to the area . I am tired of driving the distance to reach an In and Out Burger establishment.
Hopefully you will get more positive responses. Starbucks does a fantastic business in the same
area ....... thank you, Jonni Schween, 82 La Ronda Drive, Rancho Mirage, Ca 92270
5-304
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
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From: CURTIS V CRESSMAN <cressman1@verizon.net >
Date: September 7, 2019 at 1:08:15 PM PDT
To: jeremyg@ranchomirageca .gov
Subject: In N Out at the Las Palmas center
Been reading all the stuff on Nextdoor webs ite about the In n Out proposed for Las Palmas. Im reading
the negativity from a few people over and over again, that makes it seam like a lot of people want to
undermine the proposed business . I really don't understand this kind of thinking. I heard nothing when
5 Guys went into the River complex, and don't think they are doing too well, I never see them very busy .
I think it's a great company to have in our community. They are busy and I have not seen one go out of
business. I think it will help give some stability to the center and hopefully with the additional traffic in
the center, will bring new businesses . One of the" complaints is the smell it would bring" . We had a
chinese restaurant there for years that you could smell food cooking when approaching the restaurant if
you were in the center. However, that smell did not permeate the neighborhood. it was right along ! !!
not set back more than a row of parking spaces in front from Hwy 111. I live in magnesia falls cove and
never smelled anything from Las Pal mas center. Another complaint is traffic, home values and were too
good a city to allow such a low class "FAST FOOD" restaurant .
Good Lord you would think the sky is falling. there's nothing factual on the Nextdoor website, just
several people who are too snooty to have something like a good fast food burger in our community.
For me, I am all for it, bring on the revenue for the city and build up a shopping center that has not been
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successful in the past 15 or 20 years . I rare ly patronize Las Palmas, not enough there to draw me in. I
did however, frequent it years ago when it was thriving. Lets get it thriving again .
You will probably hear from nay sayers as they are trying to organize but unfortunately probably not the
ones that are fine with it. So I thought I would send a message of support.
Thank you in advance for reading my unsolicited input.
Sincerely,
Curt Cressman
Rancho Mirage Resident
2 5-306
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
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From: cthendrix@aol.com
Date: September 7, 2019 at 8:00:34 AM PDT
To: jeremyg@ranchomirageca.gov
Subject: In 'n Out Burger in Las Palmas
I am a resident of Rancho Mirage with a home in Dominion, and I think an
In 'N Out Burger house in the Las Palmas Center will be a great addition to
the neighborhood. The chain is owned and not franchised so they tightly
control the quality of their operations in every way. I have never visited one
that was not well kept inside and out. It will generate traffic and business to
a center that really needs a boost. I urge you to approve their request to
build,
Charles T. Hendrix
19 Dominion Court
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
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From: Joe Ruffalo <ruffworld@gmail.com>
Date: September 6, 2019 at 9:00:04 PM PDT
To: jeremyg@ranchomirageca.gov
Subject: In n out
In my opinion. It should not be a drive through but park and eat.
Joe Ruffalo
17 Lorca Drive. RM
1 5-308
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From: Cheri <cherimrtnl@netscape .net>
Date: September 9, 2019 at 6:28:37 PM PDT
To: jeremyg@ranchomirageca .gov
Subject: ln-n-out
Yes it would be good for rancho mirage to have a in-n-out. And it might benefit the business around in
the shopping center.
Cheri Martin
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Jeremy Gleim, AICP
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Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
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FYI -letter in support of project.
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Ted Weill
Council Member
Phone : 760-324-4511 Ext . 202
E-mail : tedw@RanchoMirageCA .gov
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From: Gail Swanson <ga i l.a .swanson@outlook .com >
Date: September 6, 2019 at 10:05:33 PM PDT
To: "tedw@ranchomirageca .gov " <tedw@ra nchom irageca .gov >
Subject: ln-n-Out
Hi Ted
My name is Gail Swanson, and I reside in Ivy League Estates. We have had the
pleasure of meeting on several occasions. I hope you are well and had an
enjoyable summer.
I am writing to you in support of the ln-n-Out being proposed . I think it is exactly
what the area needs! believe they will be a neighborhood friendly business. The
revenue generated for the city is certainly a big attraction. For me, it is the jobs it
will bring to the area! It will certainly liven up the Las Pal mas shopping center. I
also think it will attract other businesses to the shopping center. In my opinion, it
will attract new visitors to this area of Rancho Mirage .
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I think it is important to enhance this center, and help it grow, especially as The
River is dying.
ln-n-Out attracts all ages, and people from all walks of life. I also think it has the
potential to stimulate interest in the vacant Applebee's.
In my opinion, I do not think it will be an eyesore to the surrounding neighbors .
With the sunken building pad, it will be partially hidden. I also believe the parking
lot is large enough to handle the traffic and the drive thru window. ln-n-Out
parking lots and surrounding areas are always clean and well maintained. RM has
already done their due diligence on all of this. Our council and planning
commission are always very thorough, and do an excellent job of looking at all
sides of the equation.
I will not be available to attend the upcoming meeting. It is going to be one hot
topic, with many strong opinions.
Stay strong, fight for this new business!
Thank you for all you do.
Gail Swanson
Ivy League Estates
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Jeremy Gleim, AICP
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From: Kathi Dunkel Cline <kathicline@gmail.com >
Date: September 7, 2019 at 5:41:21 AM PDT
To: jeremyg@ranchomirageca .gov
Subject: PRO: In 'N' Out
I am a long time resident of Magnesia Falls Cove (since 1960).
I am in favor of the In 'N' Out Burger being allowed. While it may cause increased traffic on Magnesia
Falls Drive, it is a public road paid for by public taxes and the public has a right to use it. The In 'N' Out in
La Quinta has not caused any traffic problems on Highway 111 and I would expect a similar drive -thru
design here so as not to cause any traffic delays on the highway. The drive-thru of Starbucks at the same
shopping center has not created any litter problems or other problems in our neighborhood. I don't
anticipate smells being a problem for residents any more than smells from Old Spaghetti Factory and
Wally's or restaurants at The River. It will increase customer traffic to the Rancho Las Pal mas Shopping
Center which may draw more businesses to open there. There are currently many vacancies. Also, it will
increase revenue to the City and create more employment. I think the positives far outweigh the
concerns of increased traffic and possible food smells for the few residents of Magnesia Falls Dr. in
closest proximity to the project.
Warm regards,
Kathi Cline
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Hello,
Christine Copic <ch.copic@gmail.com>
Friday, September 06, 2019 1:03 PM
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
In-N-Out
My name is Christine Copic and I would love to have an ln-N-Out burger in Rancho Las Palmas Center. I live in Rancho La
Palmas C.C. and have lived in Rancho Mirage for
32 yrs. I think it would draw a lot of business into our community and help keep Rancho Las Palmas center alive and
thriving. It might even improve visitors to The River! It's a shame so many businesses have left the River.
My husband is all for this too. If the drive thru is the only objection maybe it could be deleted, but I personally don't
have any problems with the drive thru. Rancho Mirage must keep up with the times!
Thank you,
Christine Copic
109 Don Quixote Dr.
Rancho Mirage
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Marjorie Edmonds-Bragg < popsycreek@icloud .com>
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Jeremy Gleim, AICP
In and Out
I am all for an In and Out Burger at Las Palmas. Please fight for it!
Marjorie Bragg
44 Majorca Dr
Rancho Mirage
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KayBell <kaybellrm@gmail.com >
Friday, September 06, 2019 1:26 PM
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
In and Out
I am all for this new restaurant as we need more medium price eating facilities ..... the issues regarding traffic, closing
hours and the other objections can be handled by the city! I do not see how this restaurant will bring any additional
problems
We have the drive thru Starbucks and that has not been a issue which is the same for the other eating facilities like the
Pizza restaurant!! I have never seen garbage thrown around! Thank you ! Kay Bell
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Saturday, September 07, 2019 2:33 PM
Majna Dukie
Inn Out
I just want to say I am in White Sun Estates close to where you are talking about putting in the new In n Out and I am
ALL in FAVOR. Please don't let a few people keep this from happening . I think it will bring more traffic to that shopping
center and that is a good thing . If people are opposed to commercial property being use for commercial purposes maybe
they should have considered that before buying so close to HWY 111 . I won't be attending the meeting because I don't
want to have problems with my neighbors but I did want to voice my opinion anonymously.
Thank You
Vicki Lamaison
11 White Sun Way
Rancho Mirage , Ca .
760 285 6288
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Jeremy Gleim, AICP
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everett Brewer <lhmlbrewer@gmail.com>
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Jeremy Gleim, AICP
In out burger
I'm very pleased to see this coming in our neighborhood thanks so much .Everett
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Las Palmas Nails & Spa
42410 Bop Hope Dr. Ste 3
Rancho Mirage, CA 92260
To whom it may concern,
Las Palm as Nails & Spa
I am Dylan Dam -owner of nails salon in Rancho Las Palmas shopping center -believe that this is a
great opportunity and appropriate timing to welcome In-N-Out Burger. In fact, I confidently express my
ideals about the multiple advantages of this famous brand will affect to our shopping center positively
regarding several aspects:
Business Development
Throughout recent years, this shopping center confronts with many obstacles along with unstable
economy. However, as the heart of Rancho Mirage city, the location contains a lot of brilliant potentials
\
to attract surrounding residents and tourists. In order to stand out of the crowd, In-N-Out Burger will play
an important role for developing future business.
Las Palmas Shopping Center' reputation
With the expectation of bringing more distinguished anchors, the significance of In-N-Out Burger
appearance leverage Rancho Las Palma shopping center's reputation. Moreover, we all understand that
increasing competitive advantages in business is a key of succeed. Not only that, it helps in creating the
vitality of current enterprises due to magnet active traffic.
Connecting Community
Corporate Social Responsibility is one of the necessary strategies to connect community together. Indeed,
the brand name of this entity with quality foods and service is beyond and above consumer satisfaction.
Therefore, In-N-Out Burger will strongly participate into improving customer's conveniences .
In my viewpoint, Las Palmas Nails & Spa have incentive support to decision of welcoming ln-N-Out
Burger as part of our family . With the hope to strike for business success, the presence of this brand will
be inevitable.
Best Regards,
Dylan Dam
Owner of Las Palrnas Nails & Spa
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Majna Dukie
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Good morning,
Doc <rjkarljr@aol.com>
Thursday, September 12, 2019 11 :24 AM
Majna Dukie
rjkarijr@aol.com; ebucy@paragoncommercialgroup.com
In and Out Restaurant
I am Dr. Robert Karl Jr. DDS . My dental office was established in Rancho Las Palmas Shopping Center in 1994 and I
remain in this location today . I plan on attending the Planning Commission meeting today but have to leave at 2:45 and so
I am submitting this letter of support.
I fully support the application of ln"N Out to locate in this shopping center.
In the 25 years of being in this location I have seen the evolution of this shopping center from vibrant and fully occupied in
the 1990's to a failed , nearly vacant center in 2015.
Today we are becoming a vibrant member of the Rancho Mirage business community again , and this application is a
great opportunity to fully complete and return this Center to its optimum potential.
This is after all, a Shopping Center as it was originally planned. Its intent is to draw customers to its anchor stores as well
as its food and service tenants. Shoppers come to take advantage of all of the services offered as intended .
ln'n'Out will be a great complement to Rancho Las Palmas Shopping Center and will help in fulfilling the intent of the
Center's original purpose for serving the Rancho Mirage Community.
I have every confidence that our professional planning and administrative staff will guide this project to a smooth and
successful completion.
Sincerely,
Robert Karl Jr. DDS , MPH
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Majna Dukie
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Subject: Fwd: Support for ln -N-Out Burger
Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
City Manager
Phone : 760-324-4511 Ext. 232
E-mail : isaiahh@RanchoMirageCA.gov
69-825 Highway 111, Rancho Mirage, California, 92270
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From: DMP <dmp.psp@gmail.com >
Date: September 23, 2019 at 7:41 :51 PM PDT
To: isaiahh@ranchomirageca.gov
Subject: Support for ln-N-Out Burger
Hello, Mr. Hagerman!
We are Rancho Mirage residents and active, registered voters who support the establishment of an ln -
N-Out Burger at Rancho Las Palmas shopping center. It would be a great addition to dining choices
within the city . We are very familiar with the proposed location with many visits to Brandini Toffee's
original location.
The "not in my backyard" complaints from Magnesia Falls residents are bogus . I've never seen cars from
Rancho Las Palmas head East on Magnesia Falls as alleged . If the city finds any merit to the argument
that cars are heading East on Magnesia Fa lls, then simply add further barriers to prevent such moving
violations.
The complaining residents would prefer the shopping center return to it's former quiet state, or perhaps
be bulldozed altogether and turned into a park, but that's ridiculous! They moved next to a long-
standing shopping center.
I urge the city to approve more fast food restaurants with drive-thrus in the fu t ure . The reality is that
residents don't go to Roy's or some other expensive restaurant every night, and we should have more
options for a reasonably priced meal within the city.
Thank you,
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Dave Peyton
Ruth Peyton
20 Pinot Noir
Rancho Mirage
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From: Clark Hallren <clark@clarkhallren.com >
Date: September 13, 2019 at 10:22:08 AM PDT
To: 'Richard Kite' <richardk@ranchomirageca .gov>, 'Iris Smotrich' <lady i rism@gmail.com >, 'Ted Weill'
<ted@tedweill.com >, 'Dana Hobart' <GDanaHobart@AOL.COM >, "charlest@ranchomirageca.gov "
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Subject: In and Out Burger debate
Hello May and council members -
I hope you are all well and had a great summer.
I've been seeing the news about the upcoming vote on the In and Out Burger development. I think it is a
great idea and encourage you to vote for it to hopefully bring more activity to our great city and other
lo cal businesses . I would be interested in any of your thoughts you care to share.
Thank you for what you do to keep our city as such a special place. It is noticed and appreciated.
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Jeremy Gleim, AICP
Development Services Director
Phone : 760-328-2266 Ext . 262
E-mail : jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA .gov
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From: Talia Kim <taliakim99@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 6:03 PM
To: Jeremy Gleim, AICP <jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: In and out burger in RM
Hello,
I'm the manager of a business located for many years in the Shopping Center where the new In and Out is proposed to
open . What an excellent idea and I personally support it 100%.
We need more exposure in this shopping center. I've seen several shops open in this shopping center, and then they
soon close their stores.
I know your city planning department can help figure out a way for smooth traffic flow into and around the shopping
center and In and Out.
This new business iwill be located on a commercial site. It's not in a residential neighborhood .
Rancho Mirage should be honored to have been selected for this new business . Please vote Yes on allowing In and Out
to open in our shopping center.
Thank you
Talia Pico
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Majna Dukie
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Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:28 AM
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E-mail: jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov
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From: Bob Dickenson <bob92270@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 9:49 AM
To: Jeremy Gleim, AICP <jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: In and Out Burger
This would be a great addition to our city. I vote yes!!
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FW: Rancho Las Palmas Shopping Center
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
Deve lopment Services Director
Phone: 760-328 -2266 Ext . 262
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From: Dickeys Barbecue Rancho Mirage <dickeys.ranchomirage@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 1:27 PM
To: Jeremy Gleim, AICP <jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: Rancho Las Palmas Shopping Center
I am thri lled to learn than an In & Out Burger will be going into the parking lot. My business is struggling and I know the
traffic into th is shopping area will help us all!
Thanks Lisa
Lisa Weaver
Owner Operator
Dickeys.RanchoMirage@Yahoo .com
760 898-5984
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From: SLShort <slshort102@gmail.com >
Date: September 16, 2019 at 10:04:30 AM PDT
To: iriss@ranchomirageca .gov,
danah@ranchomirageca .gov, richardk@ranchomirageca.gov,
ch a rlest@ra nchom irageca .gov, tedw@ra nchom i rageca .gov
Subject: In and Out for Rancho Mirage
Dear Mayor and Council Members:
I am a resident of Mission Shores in Rancho Mirage, and my family frequents In and Out
several times a week because it is my teenagers' favorite restaurant. I support In and
Out coming to Rancho Mirage, and I look forward to spending my money in my own
community. I have never witnessed/experienced any crime while sitting in the drive
through of In and Out in both Thousand Palms and La Quinta several times a week,
inc luding frequently after dark. It is a safe and friendly restaurant. Please vote "Yes" on
In and Out in Rancho Mirage.
Sincerely,
Sandra Short
102 Shoreline Drive
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Majna Dukie
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Council Member
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Date: September 13, 2019 at 2:04:09 PM PDT
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Subject: FW: In N Out Burger
Dear Members of the Council,
I have been a resident of Magnesia Falls Cove for over 15 years . I have been following the discussion of
In N Out Burger entering the Las Palmas Shopping Center. I believe In N Out would be an asset to our
community. Sure, they will create additional traffic for the area but in my opinion the shopping center
greatly needs additional traffic. There is not one tenant in the center that is knocking the ball out of the
park . The traffic generated by In N Out will have a positive impact on the other tenants in the shopping
center and aid in the leasing of the vacancies that exist .
I am currently retired, but during my 45 year career, I was the Director of Real Estate for Home Depot,
Manager of the Corporate Real Estate Department for Safeway Stores, SVP Real Estate for Payless Drug
Stores, Chief Investment Officer for Burnham Pacific Properties, and CEO for National Retail
Partners, At National Retail Partners we owned 150 shopping centers located in 14 States. Having a fast
food restaurant in a Neighborhood Shopping Center zone is very typical. As a matter of fact, of the 150
shopping centers we owned, not one of them was located in a zone that did not permit the operation of
a fast food restaurant.
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I have heard comments made by many in opposition to In N Out. Quite frankly, I have found them to be
pretty ridiculous and almost laughable. These people for the most part have no knowledge of the
industry and are shooting from the hip with nothing credible to support their statements.
My wife and I own one of the more valuable properties in Magnesia Falls Cove, possibly only second to
Porcupine Creek. If I felt for a minute that the construction of In N Out would have a net negative
impact on the quality of life in our community I would be aggressively objecting to its construction. This
is just not the case.
I strongly encourage each of you to vote for the construction of In N Out in the Las Palmas Shopping
Center. Bricks and mortar retailing is struggling everywhere and it would be in the best interest of this
Council to support retailing to help improve the overall quality of life within our City.
Thank you.
Jim Gaube
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From: George Martinez <socaliboi87@gmail.com >
Date: September 12, 2019 at 12:35:42 PM PDT
To: jeremyg@ranchomirageCA.gov
Subject: Inn out
I'm 32 years old I live in Rancho mirage for 15 years and work for cvs in Rancho for 15 years I been there
since it was long drugs it will help us with business and traffic for the city and bring more people in town
we don't have nothing fast food near us I will like to have in n out here next to us
George Martinez
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Development Services Director
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From: Laura Marie <lauramariehomes@gmail.com >
Date: September 19, 2019 at 6:01:21 PM PDT
To: jeremyg@ranchomirageca.gov
Subject: IN -N-Out Burger
I am a newer permanent resident to the area and would like it noted that this franchise would be
a fabulous addition to the area . ln-N -Out is throughout LA and I have yet to see a location that is
improperly maintained . There is one just 2 blocks from UCLA that is a drive thru and has been
there for many years and a wonderful compliment to Westwood. Yes, sometimes a line of cars
spill over to the street during peak periods and there are additional restaurant employees
meeting cars to further expedite orders . The restaurant and surrounding area is clean and it is
NOT a magnet for nefarious activity. Fingers crossed this restaurant will receive final approval.
Thank you , LM
Laura Marie
Associate Branch Manage r
Residential Leasing Director
International President 's Circle
Coldwe ll Banker Global Luxury
5-331
166 N Canon Drive
Beverly Hills, CA 90210
Mobile: 213.840.5353
Website : www.LauraMarieHomes.com
Ca1Re#01447266
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The new access way is being accomplished by
demolishing five buildings on the Highway 111 frontage
and replacing them with a freestanding CVS with a
drive-thru and a future restaurant pad. "This not only
opens up the visibility to the anchors but also to our
shop tenants," says Bucy.
'We have a neighborhood-serving tenant mix with a
specialty grocer, Greens International Nlarket, and a
CVS Pharmacy," Bucy says. Stein Nlart is also on board
and will occupy 30,000 square feet, while Hobby
Lobby s store will house approximately 48,000 square
feet.
rendering courtesy of Robinson Hill Architecture, Inc.
Paragon is enhancing the elevations, signage, pedestrian
links, conu11on areas, and landscaping at the Rancho
Las Palmas Shopping Center in Rancho Mirage.
Paragon is known for its socially-responsible approach
to development. "Paragon prides itself in not only
working with the communities where we operate, but
also creating great shopping centers," says Bucy.
Some of the sustainable features found in the project
include drought-tolerant landscaping, cool white roofs,
NEV [New Electric Vehicle J charging stations, energy-
efficient lighting, enhanced shade, and pedestrian paths
and bike parking to promote non-vehicle trips, Bucy
says.
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Overall, the center will have 30 to 35 tenants. Aside
from CVS, other existing tenants with a long history in
the community will be remaining, including Wells
Fargo, Brandini Toffee, Salon Centric, Dr. Gary
Greenwald, Impression Cleaners, RLP Dental Care, Dr.
Burton Blaurock Optometry, American Cancer Society,
Advanced Hearing, Backstage Wigs, Plaza Nails, and
Ciro's Italian Restaurant.
Photo courtesy of Paragon Commercial Group, Inc.
One of the anchor tenants will be Stein Mart, which is
expected to open in June 2016.
Paragon also spent a significant amount of time
enhancing the elevations, signage, pedestrian links,
access, common areas, and landscaping. 'We want
people to not only shop, but spend time enjoying the
pedestrian-oriented spaces that we are creating," says
Bucy.
The project is expected to be completed between June
2016 and January 2017, with CVS and Stein Mart
opening in the first phase followed by Hobby Lobby.
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"On behalf of the City of Rancho Mirage, we are very
excited to see the Rancho Las Palmas Shopping Center
come back to life," says the city's ]Vlayor Pro Tern, Ted
Weill. "The corner of Bob Hope and 1-lighway 111 is the
second highest traffic count in the Valley and is the
commercial window into our city. Our residents will
enjoy the shopping experience of the new stores and
dining in a new restaurant. The center will [ also J make
a significant sales tax contribution to the general fund."
Rancho Las Pa/mas Shopping Center, 42-540 Bob
Hope Drive, Rancho Mirage.
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RANCHO MIRAGE -City Councilman Ted Weill is surveying area residents to find out which stores they'd like to see fill in all the blanks in the Rancho
Las Palmas Shopping Center, which has strugg led since Vons moved out nearly five years ago.
Weill, a real estate developer who has become the counci l's point person on the project but has no financial stake in it, sa id the electronic poll was sent
out Sunday to about 4,000 ema il addresses he's gathered in his desert dealings over the years.
By late Monday morning he'd already gotten some feedback that went beyond what he was going after.
He sa id he'd gotten about 20 responses back personally, going beyond responding to the multiple choice survey.
"Some people wrote back about how we could improve access to the center, they wrote about things with the sidewalks that we hadn 't even thought
about , so now those can be incorporated into the plans for the center," he said. --
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"Most of the responses were about food, whether it's fine dining, whether it 's sandwich shops, whether it be reasonably priced," he said. "And of course, a
lot of people wou ld like to see another market go in there."
The sprawling plaza at the northeast corner of Highway 111 and Bob Hope Drive, built back in 1979, was once a thriving neighborhood hub but was
starting to lo se ground before Vons closed its grocery store there in late 2009 .
Since then the vacancy rate has shot up over 50 percent.
The 226,000 square-foot mall fell into foreclosure, unti l Paragon Commercia l Group of El Segundo bought it for an undisclosed sum from Wells Fargo in a
deal that closed at the end of March.
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Jim Dillavou, principal for Paragon, said in an email Monday, "Now that we have acquired the Rancho Las Palmas shopping center, we are very focused
on the repositioning of the center and we are happy with the progress we have made thus far.
"We are actively discussing the project with tenants and the City in order to create an attractive retail shopping destination with a synergistic mix of
neighborhood serving tenants , with the goal of revitalizing what was once a convenient local gathering place for residents."
Already-announced plans include moving current anchor CVS into a new building with a 24-hour drive-thru closer to the corner of Highway 111 and Bob
Hope, replacing the current home of the Rancho Mirage Chamber of Commerce.
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r the site at its May 22 meeting, Planning Manager Bud Kopp said, but Paragon
ation, which will have to go to the planning commission and council for approval.
Architectural Review Board member Ron Gregory said the board 's reaction was "very enthusiastic. We feel they addressed all of the issues that have
made this shopping center a tough one , with the traffic circulation ."
The new design will make it easier for customers to park and navigat e the center on foot , he said.
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(Photo: Crystal Chatham/The Desert
Ongoing renovations and the addition of new businesses at Rancho Las Palmas are bringing new life to
the Rancho Mirage s hopping center that was 60 percent vacant two years ago.
Construction crews remain busy at the center where the new CV S store is open and the old building has been
demolished, making way for a 48,000-square-foot Hobby Lobby -the center's largest retailer -which should
be open by the end of the year.
S un, Crystal Chatham/The Desert Stein Mart opened its new store -the third for the Coache lla Valley -in October.
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A new Starbucks, Greens Int ernational Market and Pieology Pizzeria are also on the way.
The shopp ing center, on Highway 111 betwe en Bob Hope and Magnesia Falls drives, is slow ly coming back to life with 85 percent of its storefronts
leased.
The dying center was bought out of foreclosure by El Seg undo-ba sed Paragon Commercial Group LLC two years ago for an undisclosed amount of
money.
Renovations started in early 2015 with the demolition of three buildings at the west end of the center to make way for the new CVS store and allow for
add itional access to the center from Highway 111.
"Even with the ongoing co nstruction, the new CVS and Ste in Mart are performing beyond projections so it is our expectation that this center will once
again quickly become one of the most vibrant shopping destinations in the city of Rancho Mirage," said Jim Dillavou , a principal with Paragon .
"The center looks amazing compared to what existed previously. We hope the residents of Rancho Mirage are as excited as we are at this great
transformat ion ," he said.
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Th E 3r, and Mayor Pro Tern Ted Weill has stated the city's sa les tax revenue from the
cer 2 freie articles left.
As low as $9.99 per month
Demolitiori of the buildings up front has been a key factor in drawing new tenants, because it made more of the center visible from Highway 111, Weill
said.
He pointed to the Ste in Mart store, which took over the old Vons lo cation. The grocery store left Rancho Las Palmas in 2009, sending the vacancy rate
soaring and making CVS the anchor business .
"One of the reasons Vons exited is that it was somewhat hidden back there ," Weill said .
Relocating CVS to the front of the center has also worked to draw businesses and allowed the drug store to add a drive-thru, he sa id.
"That was probably the first major piece of the puzzle to be put together," Weill said.
That parcel, valued at about $1 million, was owned by Rancho Mirage, which gave the property to Paragon with the understanding the developer wou ld
take care of improvements for curbs , gutters and sidewa lks at no cost to the city, Weill said.
"So there was no out-of-pocket outlay by the city," he said.
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Work is being done to renovate a Wells Fargo location in the Rancho Las Palmas shopping center on Monday, March 28, 2016, in Rancho Mirage, Ca lif. (Photo: Crystal
Chatham/The Desert Sun, Crystal Chatham/The Desert Sun)
The new Starbucks will also have a drive-thru, Weill said. While normally not a llowed for food-based businesses in Rancho Mirage, ii works for Starbucks
because vehicles will enter and ex it within the shopp ing center and not onto Highway 111.
It was Starbucks that drew Pieology, he said, because it's a high-traffic business.
Founded in 2011, Pieology is a franchise based in Rancho Santa Margarita w ith restaurants nationwide serving pizzas and sa lads made -to-order.
Some have likened it to a Subway or Ch ipotl e for pizza where customers go to various stations to choose pi zza crusts, toppings and sauces.
Starbucks and Pieology are both expected to open in the next couple of months, Paragon's Dillavou sa id .
But the rebirth hasn't been easy for everyone.
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"It's been a very long year," said Emily Weber, owner of Backstage Wigs and Beauty Sa lon , who estimates she lost 80 percent of her bus in ess during the
construction.
Located at the north end of the shopping center, the salon is a little hard to find as the building 's exterior undergoes renovation. Clients have been
confused, thinking the shop is closed, Weber said.
"The ce nter is starting to come alive, so that's important," Weber said. "For so many years, it was a dead center. So, I'm trying to be very hopeful knowing
it will be all good in the end."
Backstage Wigs and Beauty Salon is one of several businesses that have stayed during construction . Some have been relocated to other parts of the
center.
Brandini Toffee will also be relocating to another part of the center, Dillavou said .
When the business moves it will free up the spot at the corner of Magne sia Falls and Highway 111 for another tenant.
"There is significant intere st in that location given it has great visibility and a convenient location right on Highway 111," Dillavou said.
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City officials are hopeful that the Rancho Las Palmas makeover will spill over to The River and help that revitalization effort.
There are some new businesses, including a Fox and the Fiddle restaurant that's taking over the former sushi spot with plans to open in the fall at The
River, Mayor Pro Tern Weill said.
This is the first American location for the Canadian-based eatery, a British style pub that, according to its website, is looking to expand and bring
franchises into the United States.
"I think a new restaurant with excellent visibility and situated where there is parking will help " The River, which ha s struggled since the recession to get up
to full occupancy, Weill said.
Desert Sun reporter Sherry Barkas covers the cities of La Quinta, Indian Wells , Rancho Mirage and Palm Desert. She can be reached at
sherrybarkas@thedesertsun.com or (760) 778-4694. Follow her on Twitter @TDSsherry
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TOWN HALL MEETING
6:15 PM
Wednesday-March 22, 2017
Whispering Waters
This is a reminder about our Town Hall meeting with
Mapping Your Neighborhood -Cindy Mueller
And
Meeting with the developer of the Las Palmas
Shopping Center, Mr. Erwin Bucy from Paragon
Commercial Group.
The View from City Hall
Councilman Richard Kite gave his "State of the City" update at our Annual
Members meeting on April 19. For those of you who couldn't attend, here is a
brief summary of his speech.
Rancho Mirage is fiscally fit! We are operating a $25 million dollar budget with
half of it being used for public services (police and fire) and the other half for
special accounts such as building and maintaining property (especially roads)
and landscaping. Overall, the budget is focused on those projects that have the
biggest impact to our community.
Our primary source of revenue continues to be hotel bed tax with The Ritz
Carlton being the #1 contributor. Approximately 45% of the revenue comes from
sales taxes. The county gets most of the property taxes.
What's new in our city? The biggest project is the Observatory that is under
construction next to the Rancho Mirage library. We are the only city in California
to have an observatory and it is scheduled to open in 2018. Evening hours will be
established and you will be able to link into the "sky view" via your own laptop. It
will be a truly unique offering both to local residents, schools and visitors.
The amphitheater continues to be a success. The dog park was completed. The
city is working with developers to begin building Thunderbird Resort and Spa on
the land adjacent to City Hall. It will be an exclusive high -end property. The city
is also looking at another parcel of land to build an intermediate price range
hotel. The Writers Festival continues to have record-breaking attendance at the
library and The Art Affaire will be held in the fall.
Richard opened up the discussion to questions from our members . One concern
voiced is the lack of viable options for high speed internet (other than Spectrum)
and a suggestion was given that the city should consider municipal broadband.
Richard is happy to have an appointment to discuss the possibilities .
Here are answers to a few other questions raised by our members. The Desert
Island hotel will be re-branded. In and Out Burger has not formally submitted
anything to city hall about locating in the Rancho Las Palmas shopping center so
Richard feels it is not likely to happen. The developer may come back with other
restaurants interested in locating to this prime property. Construction will begin
in the fall for Del Webb residential community near the Agua Caliente Resort.
There will be no golf course and it is anticipated the average sales price will be
approximately $400,000.
It is always a pleasure to have Richard share the updates and his insights on our
beautiful city of Rancho Mirage.
From Anne's notes about Bucy's presentation:
These are my notes about Bucy's response
about what might be considered for the Las
Palmas Shopping Center. He said that they
were looking for a "fine dining restaurant",
but these were the only possibilities he had at
the time.
None of them were acceptable to the
residents, especially the In & Out Burger.
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1. Bob Hope@ Hwy 111
2. Left turn off of Hwy 111 -into en
trance of Magnesia Falls Cove
3. Westward on Hwy 111 -turning right
i nto Las Palmas Shopping Center
4. Park View, turning right or left to
take a shortcut to lower Magnesia Falls
Dr. Arriving at shopping center
on right.
5. Bob Hope driving south to turn left
to shopping center arriving tio the
shopping center along with Starbucks
traffic .
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From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Jeanne Macwhirter < mbjirene@icloud.com>
Wednesday, September 11, 2019 7:01 PM
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
In and out
I hope you are at the meeting tomorrow! We in the neighborhood have many questions for you! We are taking time
from work and family so that is the least you can do! Jeanne macwhirter
Sent from my iPad
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Jeremy Gleim, AICP
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
Wednesday, September 11, 2019 4 :35 PM
Majna Dukie
FW: In and Out Burger
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
Development Services Director
Phone : 760-328-2266 Ext . 262
E-mail : jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov
69-825 Highway 111 , Rancho Mirage, California, 92270
www.RanchoMirageCa .gov
TRANSPARENCY NOTICE
Some or all of the content of this e-mail and its attachments may be subject to disclosure pursuant to the California
Public Records Act (Government Code section 6250, et seq.)
From: Ted Weill <tedw@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3 :58 PM
To: Isaiah Hagerman, CPA <isaiahh@RanchoMirageCA.gov>; Jeremy Gleim, AICP <jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: Fwd: In and Out Burger
FYI,
Sent from my iPhone
Ted Weill
Council Member
Phone: 760-324-4511 Ext . 202
E-mail : tedw@RanchoM irageCA .gov
69-825 Highway 111 , Rancho Mirage , California, 92270
www.RanchoMirageCa .gov
TRANSPARENCY NOTICE
Some or all of the content of this e -mail and its attachments may be subject to disclosure pursuant to the California
Public Records Act (Government Code section 6250, et seq.)
Begin forwarded message:
From: Jay Conley <jayzconley@gmail.com >
Date: September 11, 2019 at 3:46:22 PM PDT
To: iriss@ra nchomi rage ca .gov, da na h@ra nchom i rageca .gov , rich a rd k@ra nchom irageca .gov,
1 5-335
cha r les t @ranchom irageca.gov, tedw@ r ancho m irageca .gov
Subject: In and Out Burger
Folks -
I understand you are contemplating In & Out Burger for a newest addition to Rancho Mirage's
cuisine. While I have no great affection for fast food, neither do I have any particular dislike for their
menu . However, must it be In & Out Burger whom you choose to welcome? As I'm sure you're aware,
the company is owned by a fundamentalist evangelical Christian whose faith believes that all life begins
at ejaculation, gays are condemned to burn in hell and who contributes heavily to right wing hate
groups supporting Trump's cult.
Allow me to offer an alternative which will earn you all the thanks of the world . Namely, declare Rancho
Mirage a sanctuary city welcoming Trump refugees form Mexico, from the Bahamas, from Puerto Rico,
from the Ukraine, from whereve r our President causes suffering and pain . When Trump learns of you r
action, his head will explode and the world will honor you. (For those of you with no sense of
humor .... you know who you are Mr. Hobart.. ... the head exploding reference was tongue in cheek).
Respectfully,
Jay Z. Conley
49 Sunrise Drive
Sunrise Country Club
Rancho Mirage
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Jeremy Gleim, AICP
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
Saturday, September 07, 2019 11:11 AM
Majna Dukie
Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
Subject: Fwd: NO In -N-Out Burgers in Las Palmas Shopping Center
Sent from my iPhone
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
Development Services Director
Phone: 760-328 -2266 Ext . 262
E-mail : jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov
69 -825 Highway 111, Rancho Mirage, California, 92270
www.RanchoMirageCa .gov
TRANSPARENCY NOTICE
Some or all of the content of this e-mail and its attachments may be subject to disclosure pursuant to the California
Public Records Act (Government Code section 6250, et seq .)
Begin forwarded message:
From: Rick Scott Caplan <autonomy@mac.com >
Date: September 7, 2019 at 9:28:38 AM PDT
To: jeremyg@ranchomirageca .gov
Subject: NO ln-N-Out Burgers in Las Palmas Shopping Center
Dear Jeremy,
Shut it down now!
There is no way in hell we'll allow that company to come to our community.
Rancho Mirage is about to learn what public participation and peaceful protest can accomplish .
W E DO NOT WANT THEM HERE!~
Got it?
RM moves forward on this-ln-N-Out & RM will learn a painful lesson.
See you on Thursday .
Eric Caplan
Rancho Mirage, CA
ln -N-Out Burgers has been granted a Conditional Use Permit to build a new drive through restaurant
in the Rancho Las Palmas Shopping Center (the corner of Highway 111 and Magnesia Falls).
Please consider the following if this project is allowed : 1) The resulting increase in traffic on Joshua
and Magnesia Falls (for example , students from the College of the Desert and residents in large the
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apartment complex on Parkview will take Joshua to Magnesia as a short cut throughout the day). 2)
Increase in late night traffic on Joshua and Magnesia Falls (ln-N-Out closes at 1 :00 a.m . 7 days a
week). 3) The environmental impact report prepared by ln-N-Out cla ims there will be an average of
754 daily visits using the drive through . This will lead to more congestion on Highway 111 as well as
Magnesia and Joshua which are used as a short cut. 4) Speeding on Joshua and to a lesser degree ,
on Magnesia Falls -this is a safety issue ; it's already a problem. 5) Increase in crime due to the
greater car and foot traffic -this is already a problem in our neighborhood. 6) Additional trash is
certain to be an issue by careless patrons taking a short cut through the neighborhood. Is this really
the type of business we want in our neighborhood?
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Jeremy Gleim, AICP
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Jeremy Gleim , AICP
Wednesday, September 04 , 2019 9:53 AM
Jim Elliott
Majna Dukie
Subject: RE : Proposed Construction of In -N-Out Burgers in Rancho Las Pal mas shopping center
Hi Mr. Elliot,
Thank you for the email; it will be documented as part of the project file . Public Hearing Notices were mailed to all
property owners within 500' of the project site, consistent with Section 17.74.020 of the Rancho Mirage Municipal Code.
Kind regards,
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
Development Services Director
Phone : 760 -328-2266 Ext . 262
E-mail : jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA .gov
69-825 Highway 111 , Rancho Mirage , California , 92270
www .RanchoMirageCa .gov
TRANSPARENCY NOTICE
Some or all of the content of this e-mail and its attachments may be subject to disclosure pursuant to the California
Public Records Act (Government Code section 6250, et seq.)
From: Jim Elliott <jimdelliott3@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 8:52 AM
To: Jeremy Gleim, AICP <jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: Proposed Construction of ln -N-Out Burgers in Rancho Las Palmas shopping center
Dear Jeremy;
I recently learned from a neighbor that the City of Rancho Mirage is considering the construction of an ln -N-Out Burgers
restaurant at 42 -560 Bob Hope Drive. I understand that some notices were previously sent to home owners in the area -
I was not one of them . In fact, I am not aware of any of my immediate neighbors receiving notification. I, and my
neighbors on Magnesia, Joshua, Desert, Barbara and Rancho will be directly and adversely affected.
I have written a letter I am sending today that summarizes my concerns and plan on attending the September 12
meeting. A summary of my concerns are as follows :
1) The resulting increase in traffic on Joshua and Magnesia Falls (for example, students from the College of the
Desert will undoubtedly take Parkview to Joshua to Magnesia as a short cut during the lunch hour).
2) Increase in late night traffic on Joshua and Magnesia Falls {ln -N-Out closes at 1:00 a.m .)
3) Speeding on Joshua and to a lesser degree, on Magnesia Falls -this is a safety issue .
4) Failure of drivers to stop at the stop sign located at the corner of Joshua and Magnes ia -again, a safety
issue (it is already problematic).
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5) Probable increase in crime due to the greater traffic -it literally takes less than a minute for someone to
stop their car, jump out and grab something from an open garage.
6) Trash blows down Magnesia -undoubtedly there will be more with a fast food establishment.
I strongly encourage the Commiss ion to reevaluate constructing any type of fast food establishment with a drive
through at 42 -560 Bob Hope Drive.
Sincerely;
Jim Elliott
Cell phone: (760) 220-2621
Email: jimdelliott3@gmail.com
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Jeremy Gleim, AICP
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Friday, September 06, 2019 12:12 PM
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
Regarding In N Out proposed site
Hello Mr. Gleim. My wife and I own a home on 72089 Magnesia Falls Dr. in Rancho Mirage. We are located right behind
the Goodwill thrift store. The proposed site of the In N Out burger is literally a stones throw away from my front yard. I
cannot stress enough how much we are vehemently opposed to having a fast food drive through restaurant in that
location.
We bought our dream house here 7 years ago with the intention of raising our 2 small children here . The house was a
foreclosure and was in disrepair, but had great potential. We scrimped and saved and invested well over a hundred fifty
thousand dollars over the course of a few years repairing and making the house beautiful once again. In my opinion its
one of the nicer homes now on our street. We have endured the construction project at the Rancho Las Palmas
shopping center, the homeless living behind Goodwill, the increased traffic, etc. But that will pale in comparison to the
increased problems a fast food drive through will bring to our neighborhood . Traffic increases, noise pollution from the
drive through, light pollution from the In N Out signage, the cooking smells, increase in crime from late night patrons, as
well as more trash blowing through the neighborhood is a detriment to not only our neighborhood, but to our city and
community as well. I cannot even began to imagine how negatively our property values will be affected. Who would
want to live where there is a fast food drive restaurant across the street? Not me! And not my neighbors either. Please
Mr. Gleim. I'm begging you to reject In N Out's proposal. There are plenty of other more appropriate locations in Rancho
Mirage for an In N Out.
Thank you for your time.
Brian Hathaway
760 -408-1691 phone
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Majna Dukie
Burger chain
I am not able to attend the meeting nor do I want this to proceed I am against having ln-N-Out Burger in our lovely quiet
town Sent from my iPhone Jef Timms
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Jeremy Gleim, AICP
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Majna Dukie
Subject: Re : In and Out Burger
I have a couple of neighbors who are dragging me
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On Sep 5, 2019, at 10:18 AM, Majna Dukie <Mainad@ranchomirageca.gov> wrote:
Good morning Dennis,
Thank you for your comments; I'll make them a part of the project file. There was a separate Traffic
Study prepared just for the proposed ln-N -Out. We are also holding an informal meeting at City Hall
today for some residents that have expressed concerns at 4:30pm if you'd like to attend .
Best,
Majna
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From: Dennis Freeman <freemanbc10@gmail.com >
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 8:34 AM
To: Majna Dukie <Majnad@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: In and Out Burger
Good morning:
When we were in the ARC meeting the other day and I asked if a traffic study was provided, you indicated
there was one . Was this study done for the original center when it was remodeled or was this a specific
study done for In and Out Burger?
For a long time in Rancho Mirage we didn't allow drive thru's on the Ill Corridor, was this changed after
Starbucks was approved?
I am still not in favor of the use on th is corner. As you know I live on Desert. When I leave the center I have
to travel two signals to get home since Bill in Engineering blocked off the left out of the center. Now we are
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going to add additional wait time at Magnesia, not to ment ion the amount of traffic that will come up
Magnesia from Joshua and COD .
I'm sure right of zone for the center allows an In and Out bu t that is not the issue.
Just to let you know the neighborhood is up in arms over the traffic this will create ...
Dennis
Denni s L Freeman
Freeman Building and Consulting
Lie# 337077
Capitis Real Estate, Realtor
DRE# 583596
760-275 -2797
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September 3, 2019
City of Rancho Mirage
Planning Division
69-825 Highway 111
lllRancho Mirage, CA 92270
Re: ln-N-Out Burgers
Dear Planning Commission:
19 SEP -9 PH 3: 04
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I am a homeowner residing at 72447 Magnesia Falls Dr. in Rancho Mirage for the past eighteen years.
During this time, I have seen traffic on Joshua and Magnesia Falls increase significantly including crimes
of opportunity. I have had several thefts from my garage during the day when the garage door was
open. In addition, I have witnessed speeding traffic and failure to heed the stop signs on increasingly
numerous occasions. I am aware that ln-N-Out Burgers has applied for a permit to build a restaurant
with a drive-through on the corner of Magnesia Falls Dr. and Highway 111. I am very much opposed to
the location of the proposed restaurant. The reasons for my opposition are as follows:
1) The resulting increase in traffic on Joshua and Magnesia Falls (for example, students from the
College of the Desert will undoubtedly take Parkview to Joshua to Magnesia as a short cut
during the lunch hour).
2) Increase in late night traffic on Joshua and Magnesia Falls (ln-N-Out closes at 1:00 a.m .)
3) Speeding on Joshua and to a lesser degree, on Magnesia Falls -this is a safety issue.
4) Failure of drivers to stop at the stop sign located at the corner of Joshua and Magnesia -again, a
safety issue (it is already problematic).
5) Probable increase in crime due to the greater traffic -it literally takes less than a minute for
someone to stop their car, jump out and grab something from an open garage.
6) Trash blows down Magnesia -undoubtedly there will be more with a fast food establishment.
I plan on attending the September 12 Council Meeting and would like to address the issues above.
Sincerely;
Jim Elliott
72447 Magnesia Falls Dr.
Rancho Mirage CA, 92270
Phone: (760) 220-2621
Email: jimdelliott3@gmail.com
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Julie Scorziell
Post Office Box 235
Lake Arrowhead, CA 92352
September 9, 20 I 9
Rancho Mirage Planning Commission
Rancho Mirage City Council
69825 California Highway 111
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
Via Facsimile to (760) 324-8830 and (760) 324-985 l
Email to Mayor Iris Smotrich at iriss@ranchomirageca.gov
RE: Objections to In-N-Out Burgers Restaurant
Planning Commission l\.1eeting 9/12/2019
Dear Rancho Mirage Planning Commission and City Council:
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My husband and I own Lot 25, APN 682-360-002, a vacant lot on Magnesia Falls Drive in
Rancho Mirage California. It is the second residential lot on Magnesia Falls and will be directly and
significantly negatively affected by the proposed In-N-Out Burgers Restaurant and drive-through in
the Rancho Las Palmas Shopping Center at 42-560 Bob Hope Drive. We just received the Public
Hearing Notice last Friday September 6, which is the first notice we've received for this proposed
project. Because we live out of town and may not be able to attend the meeting this coming
Thursday September 12, we are submitting this letter in advance. We ask that it be added to the
objections presented at the meeting and taken into consideration by the Planning Commission when
it makes its decision . We also ask that it be included in the written record for this proposed project
so that the objections contained herein can be considered on appeal, if necessary.
OBJECTIONS
A. The Proposed ln-N-Out Burgers and Drive-Through Should Not Be Classified as
(::ategorically Exempt Under CEOA as Categorical Exemptions are Construed Strictlv and
the Proposed Project Will Have a Significant Effect on the Environment Thereby
Disqualifving it from the Exemption.
We object to the proposed project being classified as categorically exempt under CEQA
Section 15332/In-Fill Development Projects. As stated in the discussion for Section 15332,
categorical exemptions for infill projects do not apply to projects that result in any significant
traffic, noise, air quality, or water quality effects. This is also the case under CEQA Section
15300.2 (a)(Location) and (c)(SignificantEffect). InMcOueen v. Mid-Peninsula Regional Open
Space (1988) 202 Cal. App. 3d 1136, the court reiterated that categorical e..umptions are construed
strictly, shall not be unreasonably expended beyond their terms, and may not be used where there is
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substantial evidence that there are unusual circumstances (including fature activities) resulting in
(or ·which might reasonably result in) significant impacts which threaten the environment.
Categorical exemptions to CEQA are to be construed strictly. Just because the proposed
project is an in-fill project does not mean that it is automatically exempt from CEQA and that is the
case here, where the proposed In-N-Out Burgers Restaurant and Drive-Through would have a
significant impact on traffic, noise, and air quality . Thus, it does not qualify for the in-fill
exemption. The City's attempt to sneak this project through ""i.thout any type of CEQA
environmental review is an abdication of its duty to plan for the general welfare of Rancho Mirage
and the environment.
Without a review of the facts discovered through an environmental review, it is difficult to
know what the environmental impact of the In -N-Out will be. However, it is clear that allowing the
construction of an extremely busy fast food restaurant and drive-through immediately adjacent to a
low-density/high-end residential neighborhood will have negative environmental impacts.
A quick Internet search revealed many articles about In-N-Out's drive-through and traffic .
Here are a few:
A 2016 Los Angeles Magazine article entitled, "In-N-Out Drive-Thru Lines Are A
Menace." In it, the author states, "They're too long and cars leak out in the street and block traffic
and cause accidents .... " https://www.lamag.com/digestblog/n-drive-thru-lines-public-menace-
heres-can-stopped/
Another article entitled "Ranking In-N-Out Locations Based On Their Drive-Thru Lines."
According to the author, some In-N-Outs have drive-thru wait times of 30-40 minutes . (See
attached.) https://,vwv.r.complex .com/pop-culture/2014/05/in-n-out-drive-thru-lines/
The 2018 QSR Drive-Thru Study that drive-thrus are busier than ever with 70 percent of
their sales being made at the drive-thru window and that average speed-of-service times have
largely sloll·ed across the board among the major players with an average of234 seconds between
the time an order is placed and received . (See attached.)
https://www.qsm1agazine .com/reports/20l8-qsr-drive-thru-studv
An article from 1996 saying that drive-thrus are the new pariahs and cities have begun to
ban them or place restrictions on the hours a drive-thru window can operate. "Drive-Thrus Run Into
Roadblocks ." https ://wvvw.Jatimes . com/archives/la-xpm-1996-11 -11-mn-63627-story .html
With these long drive-through lines and wait times, significant negative environmental
effects are to be expected and a CEQA review is mandated. Significant negative impacts
include, but are not limited to:
1. Significant negative impact on traffic on the adjacent streets and neighborhoods as
the drive-through line extends beyond the parking lot and into the streets as cars wait on Magnesia
Falls and Bob Hope to turn left into the parking lot. This will negatively impact Magnesia Falls
residents attempting to leave their homes, who will now be required to sit in traffic just to leave the
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neighborhood. It will also cause an increased number of accidents with vehicles and potentially
pedestrians.
2 . Significant negative impact on traffic on Magnesia Falls as cars drive from Palm
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Desert through the residential neighborhood as a shortcut to ln-N-Out. Given In-N-Out's popularity
among youth, teen drivers will be commonplace. Teen drivers are known by the state to be unsafe
drivers due to their cell phone use, texting, high rate of distraction, and speed . Significantly
increasing traffic by hundreds, if not thousands of cars, through a residential neighborhood is
dangerous and creates a risk of harm to residents and their children.
3 . Significant negative impact on traffic on Highway l 11, Bob Hope, and Magnesia
Falls which will impact all Rancho Mirage residents and tourists and businesses nearby as people
avoid places like Rancho Las Palmas and The River because they don't want to get stuck in traffic.
This could also cause inadequate emergency access.
4 . Significant negative impact on air pollution, vibration, and heat from cars idling in
line for extended periods of time (up to 40 minutes or more until one in the morning). The increase
in pollution and decrease in air quality would also have a negative impact on any children or adults
with allergies, asthma, and other sensitivities.
5. Significant negative impact on noise pollution from multiple car engines, car stereos,
the amplified voice at the order window, orders being called over speakers, and a large increase in
the number of people in the area, teenage loitering, panhandling, and talking outside . During the
few hours In-N-Out is closed in the morning, large, noisy, delivery trucks, possibly eighteen-
wheelers, would deliver food . It would create a substantial increase in ambient noise levels in the
project vicinity, especially in the quiet neighborhood of l\llagnesia Falls.
6. The proposed project with its signage, lights, and car headlights would create a new
source of substantial light or glare, which would be a continuing nuisance to the residents around
the project. It would also create light pollution, thereby damaging the view of the night sky . The
aesthetics of the area would be negatively impacted, the character ofthe neighborhood changed, and
the likelihood of graffiti increased .
7 . In-N-Out is known for producing a very strong and distinct smell of hamburgers and
onions grilling, which is an objectionable odor when present every day from ten in the morning
until one at night. This smell will permeate the neighborhood, is noxious to all, and is even more so
to vegan and vegetarian people. Wind direction should be considered.
8. The proposed restaurant and drive-through is also in conflict with the l and-use plan
currently in place and the desired reputation of the city. According to the Mayor's statement on the
Rancho Mirage website, Rancho Mirage is know as the "Playground of the Presidents and has
hosted US Presidents, foreign royalty and has been home to countless Hollywood and sports
celebrities . It is the desert oasis for vacation destinations, business owners, retreats, and
conferences."
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The Magnesia Falls neighborhood impacted by the In-N-Out has homes valued upward of
one million dollars. This is not the neighborhood for a busy fast food restaurant and drive-through
which would negatively impact property values.
Additionally, there is an jnherent conflict between allowing a project of this sort, which
would attract hundreds of people and cars every day until the wee hours of the morning, and the
city's rental home ordinance, ·which places significant restrictions on short-term rentals in Rancho
Mirage. What is the point of limiting the number of people, cars, and noise coming from one house
when the city is considering allowing hundreds of people and cars ,,vith stereos to visit a fast food
restaurant and drive-through every day located just a hundred feet from a residential neighborhood?
The rental home ref,•1Jlations seem much more in keeping with the vision for Rancho Mirage than
the In-N-Out.
9 . Another significant negative impact would be the increase in litter from fast food
wrappers and trash . The increased level of food waste could also cause an increase in rats, roaches,
flies, and other vermin and pests, which would negatively affect the surrounding residential
neighborhood.
10. All of the negative impacts will be compounded by the fact In-N-Out is open
until from 10 a.m. until 1:00 a.m. every single day. This is incompatible with the residential
neighborhood directly across the street where families live and sleep and will cause a substantial
adverse effect on the people who live in the Magnesia Falls neighborhood.
An environmental assessment must be completed as additional significant facts and
information may come to light, which would cause other significant negative impacts. This project
does not qualify for the in-fill exception. Likewise, it does not qualify for a conditional use permit
B. A Conditional Use Permit Should Not Be Granted Because The Negative Effects of the
Proposed In-N-Out Burgers and Drive-Through Fail to Outweigh The Public Need For and
Benefits From the Proposed Use Under Rancho Mirage Municipal Code 17.48.010.
To grant a conditional use permit, the public need for and benefit from the project must
outweigh the negative effects. Here, the reverse is true and the negative effects win. There is no
public need for an In-N-Out, nor a benefit from it. If people want a fast food hamburger, there are
many choices nearby, including a Five Guys right across the street at the River. There are many
other fast food restaurants within a few miles, including many that offer hamburgers . In fact, there
are two other In-N-Outs within a short distance. One located at 72265 Varner Road (6 miles away)
and another at 78611 Highway 111 (7 miles away).
Perhaps most importantly, though, is the fact that the Rancho Mirage Planning
Commission and City Council should be looking out for the benefit of the Rancho Mirage
residents. According to city-data.com, the median resident age in Rancho Mirage is 66. 7 years of
age. This is quite a bit higher than the California median age of 36.4 years. While I was unable to
find the median age of In-N-Out customers, I suspect that it is quite a bit younger than 66.7 years.
While there may be many youth in the desert that would like to have an In-N-Out in Rancho
Mirage, it seems questionable that those youth are actually residents of Rancho Mirage. It would
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seem that most residents of Rancho Mirage do not eat at In-N-Out as they are not the target
customer.
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As discussed at length above, and incorporated here by reference, there are many negative
impacts from placing a very busy fast food restaurant immediately adjacent to a low density/high
end residential neighborhood. These negative effects are significant and outweigh any imaginable
need or benefit.
C . A Conditional Use Permit Should Not Be Granted Under Rancho 1\-Iirage Municipal
Code Section 17.48.060 Because the Required Findings Cannot be Made.
For ease of reading and brevity, all of the ar guments set forth above are hereby incorporated
by reference for each of the arguments below.
1. A Conditional Use Permit Should Not Be Granted Because the Proposed Use
would Impair the Integrity and Character of the Subject Zoning District.
Rancho Mirage prides itself on being an oasis in the desert, the playground of presidents. It
is not a city of fast food or drive-throughs_ Likewise, Rancho Las Palmas Shopping Center has
always been a small neighborhood commercial area consisting of a few walk-in restaurants, a
market, a drugstore, medical office space, and the like. Allowing an In-N-Out in this district,
immediately across the street from a residential neighborhood would indeed impair the integrity and
character of not only Rancho Las Palmas, but also Magnesia Falls, and even the River, which has
nice restaurants and seeks an upscale crowd. The In-N-Out does not belong . In-N-Outs are
generally placed near freeways in areas that are completely commercial.
2. A Conditional Use Permit Should Not Be Granted Because the Design,
Location, Size, and Operating Characteristics of the Proposed Use are Not Compatible With
the Existing and Future Land Uses and Would Create Significant Noise, Traffic, and Other
Conditions or Situations That Are Objectionable or Detrimental to Other Allowed Uses
Operating Nearby and Are Adverse to the Public Interest, Health, Safety, Convenience, and
Welfare of the City.
For all the reasons discussed herein, In-N-Out is simply not compatible with the existing
uses surrounding the proposed location. The residences in the Magnesia Falls area have been there
for decades . It is a low-key, quiet, family neighborhood. The Magnesia Falls neighborhood is only a
hundred feet or so from the proposed In-N-Out which will service hundreds, if not thousands, of
people and cars a day, and be open fifteen hours a day, every day of the year, until one in the
morning. Allowing an In-N-Out would completely change the make-up and character of the area in
a negative fashion . Instead of improving the reputation of the city, this would reduce it.
An In-N-Out would also r educe the property values of homes in the surrounding areas . As a
matter of fact, we had someone make an off er to purchase our lot, however, that offer is currently
off the table due to the proposed In-N-Out and we have suffered damages because of it. Our
longstanding plan was to build a million dollar home on our lot. However, that is also off the table
due to the current proposal.
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As discussed above, there is no question the In-N-Out will generate significant noise, traffic,
and other conditions or situations that are objectionable or detrimental to the residential
neighborhood nearby and are adverse to the public interest, health, safety, convenience and welfare
of the city. In fact, with the exception of a nightclub or bar that would be open until 2 a.m., it's hard
to imagine any project that would create more significant noise, traffic, smells, and other
objectionable or detrimental conditions until so late at night. The conditional use permit should not
be granted.
3. A Conditional Use Permit Should Not Be Granted Because the Subject Site is
Not Physically Suitable for the Type and Intensity of the Use Being Proposed.
In addition to the reasons above, t.li.e Rancho Las Palmas Shopping Center currently has two
points of entrance and exit -one on Bob Hope and one on Magnesia Falls. To enter the shopping
center from Bob Hope requires a left hand tum. This enter the shopping center from Magnesia Falls
also requires a left hand turn. It is not easy to enter Rancho Las Palmas under the best of
circumstances due to the configuration of the entrances and exits and Rancho Las Pal mas is
certainly not physically suitable for a busy drive-through restaurant with Jong lines of cars and
significant traffic.
The last business in this location was a Brandini Toffee, which was a low-impact business
run by two local businessmen. An In-N-Out is too intense for the proposed location . It belongs
somewhere else more suitable .
4. A Conditional Use Permit Shou]d Not Be Granted Because There Are Not
Adequate Provisions for Public Access and Sanitation and the Proposed Use Would Be
Detrimental to Public Health and Safety.
For all the reasons above, public access to this property in the amount being requested is
simply not adequate. As discussed in the article referenced above, "In-N-Out Drive-Thru Lines Are
a Menace," the lines can actually cause car accidents or endanger the residents of the Magnesia
Falls neighborhood. The In-N-Out traffic can also endanger the other people frequenting Rancho
Las Pa1mas.
5. A Conditional Use Permit Should Not Be Granted Because the Proposed Project
Has Not Been Reviewed in Compliance with CEQA and Should Be as Required By Law
Because it Would Have Potential Significant Negative Effects Upon Environmental Quality
and Natural Resources That Would Not be Properly Mitigated and Monitored Unless
Findings Are Made in Compliance with CEQA.
For all the reasons above, the City's failure to comply with CEQA and conduct any type of
environmental review so that negative effects can be mitigated and monitored, the CUP cannot be
granted. The City needs to fulfill its duty to the public and comply with the requirements of CEQA
instead of hiding behind an exception that doesn't apply.
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CONCLUSION
Overall, the In-N-Out will have a substantial adverse effect and negative impact on the
residents of Rancho Mirage, especially those who live in the Magnesia Falls neighborhood. While
many people enjoy a double-double on occasion, living in a cloud of greasy hamburger fumes and
idling cars every day of every week from 10 in the morning until 1 am at night is not acceptable for
anyone. In-N-Outs are generally located near freeways or in areas that are I 00% commercial on all
sides. They are not placed in neighborhoods. for a reason -they don 't belong there. This is not a
good fit, CEQA has not been followed (and it must be before the project can even be considered),
and the CUP for In-N-Out should be denied .
With that being said, the City should recognize that there are a multitude of other restaurants
and stores that could be placed in that location that would not impact the area negatively . Such a
business would not have a drive-through, would operate during hours that would be more
compatible with the residential neighborhood, would have low lighting and no smell, and would
have a much lesser impact on traffic and the surrounding environment . They would also be more in
keeping with the upscale character of Rancho Mirage.
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Joseph Gibbs
CUP Case Number 19007
20190909 Memornadum to City of Rancho Mirage.pdf
Attached please find a Memorandum of today's date from Joseph A . Gibbs. Please contact Mr.
Gibbs with any questions or comments.
Linda S . Hall
Legal Secretary to
Joseph A. Gibbs, Esq .
41-750 Rancho Las Palmas Dr.
Suite B-1
Rancho Mirage, California 92270
Tel : (760) 779 -1790
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Joseph A . Gibbs
September 9, 2019
CUP Case Number: 19007
Preliminary Development Plan
Applicant: In-N-Out Burger
The purpose of this Memorandum is to place the City of Rancho Mirage on written notice that I
have strong objections to the proposed plan to allow the construction of an In-N-Out Burger fast
food restaurant within the City of Rancho Mirage.
I have been a full time resident of the City of Rancho Mirage for over 25 years. My law firm
maintains an office in the City of Rancho Mirage.
Note the following points:
1) The fast food restaurant is inconsistent with the image that the City is attempting to
promote;
2) Only a very small percentage of citizens within the City of Rancho Mirage will
benefit from this kind of business;
3) More traffic, more congestion and more noise will result from the operation of this
kind of business; and
4) Allowing this kind of use within the City limits will make it that much easier for
national fast food chains to open restaurants within the City of Rancho Mirage.
41 -750 Rancho Las Palmas Drive, Suite B-1, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
Phone 760 .77 9.1 790 I Fax 760 .7 79 .1780 I E-mail jag@ jagi b bs.com I Web www.jagibbs.com
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Isaiah Hagerman , CPA
FW: Rancho Mirage In -out Burger Bob Hope
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
Development Services Director
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To: Jeremy Gleim, AICP <jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: Rancho Mirage In-out Burger Bob Hope
Good Morning,
Our Family has lived on Rancho Road since 1975. We have seen a major increase in traffic and crime over the last few
years. We feel with the additional traffic that comes with an In -Out Burger, it will cause major problems for our
community. We enjoy and respect In-Out Burger, but are concerned on having a drive thru restaurant staying open until
12am-1am and entering and exiting thru our area. Crime will increase and will become a major issue with all the
additional foot and car traffic. There are plenty of locations thru out Rancho Mirage for them to build on, and would
like you to reconsider allowing this project to continue . I will see you on Thursday at 2PM for the meeting.
Sincerely,
Kevin and Tina See/ Tony Belmaggio
72374 Rancho Road
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
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To the City Council Members:
I am a resident in the neighborhood, where the In & Out is being considered . As a matter of fact the location is at our
main neighborhood entrance . As such, it would cause much more congestion to an already busy intersection. One of the
main reasons I chose Rancho Mirage for a second home, is because of their strict zoning laws restricting just this type
business. This will attract loitering and create extra traffic zipping through our our quiet neighborhood.
Please reconsider the location for this Burger joint to a 'more appropriate' location and not at an entrance to a
residential neighborhood .
Thank you,
Patricia Greytak
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To Whom it may concern:
My name is Tracey Genet and I own a home not far from the proposed In and Out burger. I am extremely opposed to
this drive thru being so close to my neighborhood. I feel it is an inappropriate place for a business of this nature. We
already have a traffic and homeless issue in this area and I feel this would add to it.
One of the reasons we picked Rancho Mirage for our second home was the high standards the city holds for not allowing
establishments of this nature.
I hope you will consider the negative impact it will have on mine and the surrounding neighborhoods.
Thank you,
Tracey Genet
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From: Edward Om berg <eomberg@sdsu.edu>
Sent: Monday, September 09 , 2019 5:09 PM
To: Jeremy Gleim, AICP <jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA .gov>
Subject: ln-N -Out Burger
Dear City of Rancho Mirage Planning Division,
We live at 43217 Joshua Road, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270 . We will be out oftown during the meeting on Thursday,
September 12, regarding the construction of an ln -N-Out Burger at the corner of Highway 111 and Magnesia Falls.
We were horrified to find out about this proposed project, and want to express our objection in the strongest
terms. We can't think of a worse locat ion for an ln -N-Out Burger. ln -N-Out Burgers are notorious for their long lines of
customers waiting for service, which often extend out into the street . Magnesia Falls is already a problematic street for
residents of our neighborhood . For example, returning home from the shopping center, it is not possible to turn left on
Magnesia Falls, one must turn right and then take Highway 111 and Parkview, a more indirect route . We can scarcely
conceive of the traffic problems with an ln-N-Out Burger at that location. And the only alternative to Magnesia Falls for
entering and exiting the neighborhood, which is via Parkview, is also a problem, due to the high speed traffic on
Parkview .
We would also like to question the claim that there will be an average of 754 visits a day. From what we have seen of ln-
N-Out Burgers, that number seems low. Is ln-N -Out Burger low balling this figure? We suspect they are.
Again, we object to this project in the strongest terms.
Sincerely yours,
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Edward and Sharon Omberg
43217 Joshua Road
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
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Mr.Jeremy Glein
My wife and I have lived on Rancho rd. since 1993, we have raised our two daughters here and now entertain our
grandchildren several days a week here. We love our neighborhood.
Unfortunately we have seen our neighborhood crime and traffic increase considerably over the years . I do
understand some of that comes from the natural growth of our city. However, to consider building an ln-N-Out burger
near what is already one of the busiest intersections of the city (Bob Hope & 111) doesn't make a lot of sense (unless of
course your ln -N-Out Burger) in addition to the 754 vehicles that will be added to the already congested traffic, a lot of
that traffic will be taking a short cut through our neighborhood! There is already an excessive amount of traffic and
speeding that happens on Joshua and Magnesia Falls and now you're considering adding to this problem.
Along with the additional vehicle traffic, this will bring additional foot traffic, additional littering and the potential for
additional crime . Not just during normal working hours but throughout the night until lam in the morning!
I urge you to not put the ln -N-Out at this loca tion. I'm sure there are many suitable locations that would work out
well for ln-N-Out Burger that would not negatively impact a neighborhood .
Sincerely,
Scott & Cindy Sohn
72397 Rancho rd.
Rancho Mirage,Ca.92270
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From: Car l Kisner <carl@kisner .com >
Date: September 10, 2019 at 6:58:14 PM PDT
To: <jeremyg@ranchomirageca.gov>
Subject: ln-N-Out Burgers
I am an enthusiastic "ln -N-Out Burger" customer, however not for this location .
There are several reasons for not approving this construction and restaurant business,
among them the increase of traffic is a congestion issue as well as safety both for auto
and pedestrian traffic.
Carl Wm. Kisner
72300 Rancho Road
Rancho Mirage CA 92270
760 346 6051
carl@kisner.com
I have been a resident of this address since February 1969
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Date: September 10, 2019 at 7:00:45 AM PDT
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Dear Mr. Gleim,
When all the hysteria dies down from the "In -and -Out Burger" controversy, the citizens of Rancho
Mirage will supposedly have another (major) source of tax revenue .
But at what cost? I'm sure you've heard from somebody named Jim Elliott in Magnesia Falls Cove, as
well as countless others .
As Mr. Elliott points out, this is a terrible idea for numerous reasons, not the least of which is RM's
longstanding aversion to "drive-through" businesses. We were told that the only reason Starbucks is
allowed a drive-through window is because it "inherited" a window from a previous business in the
same location. (I don't know if this is true or not; it's simply what others have told us.} But anyone who
has seen the cars in the Starbucks drive through during any one of their rush hours will tell you it is a
nuisance.
To me, it underscores a bigger problem and that is how we see ourselves as a community. When I
moved here I didn't expect RM to be like El Paseo -I knew that was for Palm Desert, not us . But I
didn't expect us to become Cathedral City o r Thousand Palms, either. El Paseo can have Saks, Tiffany,
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Gucci, Brooks Brothers, etc., but I guess Rancho Mirage sees itself as more Hobby Lobby, Stein Mart and
In-and-Out Burger. What a shame. We may not get the tax revenue from an expensive purchase at
Gucci, but at least we'll get it from a 95C hamburger.
A year or so ago I sent a list to one of our city council members in which I suggested several new up-and-
coming businesses I'd discovered in my travels -each of which would have made an excellent addition
to the Las Palmas Shopping Center OR The River. Naturally I never heard anything back, but I see there
are still lots of vacancies at both properties.
Frankly, I'm shocked that In-and-Out Burger isn't smart enough to know this is a terrible location. Unlike
most of their locations, this one will get strong and steady pushback from nearby neighbors.
There. Aren't you glad you asked for my opinions? Sorry to rant. It's an old man thing.
Good luck,
Rex John
Rancho Mirage
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From: Peg Zannotti <everett18@gmail.com >
Date: September 7, 2019 at 12:46:20 PM PDT
To: jeremyg@ranchomi rageca.gov
Subject: In & Out Burger
I am a resident of Rancho Mirage and Object to having In & Out burger in the Rancho Las Palmas
Shopping
Center. I reside in Rancho Las Palmas CC and feel this will add greatly to traffic congestion, along with
the trash
involved with this type of business in a residential area.
Margaret Zannotti
6 Alfaro Dr.
Rancho Mirage, Ca 92270
918-406-8394
5-364
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Date: September 7, 2019 at 8 :1 6:45 PM PDT
To: jeremyg@ranchomirageca .gov
Cc: "G. Dana Hobart" <danah@ci.racho-mirage.ca.us >
Subject: In and Out
I am a resident of Rancho Mirage in the adjoining neighborhood and reside on Barbara Drive.
While I am generally supportive of this restaurant chain, I am adamantly opposed to allowing this drive
through concept at this location .
The increase in traffic is a real problem.
Additionally, since when did Rancho Mirage support drive through fast food restaurant chains to open
ON HIGHWAY 111?
This is NOT the type of branding and planning that makes Rancho Mirage such a wonderful place to l ive.
Please do NOT APPROVE In and Out Restaurant to open on the corner of Magnesia Falls and Highway
111!!!
Thanks for your time and thoughtful consideration.
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Robert Smith
72255 Barabara Drive
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
760-501-8080
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From: Ken Udall <kensvespa@gmail.com >
Date: September 9, 2019 at 6:28:39 PM PDT
To: jeremyg@ranchomirageca.gov
Subject: In and Out Burgers at Rancho Los Palmas
What planning has been conducted showing the resupply of the restaurant
by large noisy trucks? There is currently a NoTrucks sign posted at Hwylll
warning trucks not to use Magnesia Falls . Other stores/shops have loading
docks in the back; this appears to require large trucks to use customer
parking spaces to make deliveries. With an average of 750 customers a day,
the restaurant will be using large amounts of truck delivered supplies.
The trucks will cause congestion and disrupt the quiet neighborhood along
Magnesia Falls. Please protect our peaceful neighborhood.
Ken Udall
9 White Sun Way
Rancho Mirage
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From: <erick.wolf@ovocontrol.com >
Date: September 8, 2019 at 7:36 :16 AM PDT
To: <je remyg@ranchomirageca .gov>
Subject: ln-N-Out Burger Location
Dear Director Gleim,
We understand through our community association that the City of Rancho Mirage has
conditionally approved the building of an "ln-N-Out Burger" at the corner of Highway 111 and
Magnesia Falls Drive.
Our home is located at 72377 Magnesia Falls Dr., in the direct path of eventual customers that
will use Waze or Google to find a short cut from Park View Dr. via Joshua St. While we enjoy a
hamburger as much as anyone , we cannot support a massive increase in through traffic on our
now relatively quiet residential street. I support a free market, but this decision to install a very
popular burger joint at the end of our street is misguided at best. The increased traffic and
pedestrians wandering around the neighborhood will be intolerable.
As a group, we are very concerned that our property values will suffer and eventually will to take
the steps necessary to recover this cost.
We would appreciate that the Planning Commission put itself in our shoes with the imposition of
extra traffic and the associated bad elements this new business will attract to our quiet
neighborhood .
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Short-term rentals are bad -this is worse . We ask that you reverse your conditional approval
and find a more appropriate location for this business.
Thank you for your consideration .
Erick and Arliss Wolf
72377 Magnesia Falls Dr.
Rancho Mirage , CA 92270
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From: Elaine Freeman <twin7997@gmail.com >
Date: September 7, 2019 at 11:35:11 AM PDT
To: je remyg@ranchomirageca .gov
Subject: ln-N-Out Burgers in Las Palmas Shopping Ctr
Hi Jeremy,
Thank you for your notice regarding the above proposal.
I was not at all aware of this.
I will be out-of-town and I will be unable to attend. I do attend most of Council meetings; they are very
informative.
Needless to say, I do not want the ln-N -Out Burgers in the Las Pal mas Shopping Center. Where I read
your information on the Next Door, Mirage CoveLsomeone suggested the AppleBees, corner of Las
Palmas and Hwy 111. In my opinion, that would be a very good location; easy access and plenty of
parking. The Starbucks in the Las Palmas Shopping Center is enough for a drive through; people driving
in that area for that service, needs to drive slower. You do have to be careful in that area driving.
Thank you for your service in reaching out to those who do not know what is going on within Rancho
Mirage. I do get emails regarding our wonderful city, Rancho Mirage; however, nothing was mentioned
regarding this business applying for this location .
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Best regards,
Elaine Freeman
a long time resident of RM
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Carl Schoeneman <desert.cj@gmail.com >
Wednesday , September 11 , 2019 3:43 PM
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In & Out Burger
I wanted to express my ardent opposition to the plans to put an In & Out Burger at Hwy 111 & Magnesia Falls. I live very
close to the project and am certain that the quality of my life in the neighbor will be adversely affected -noise, traffic,
sme l l. I saw the plans and I highly doubt that the length of the drive-th r u will be enough to accommodate the throngs of
people who patronize In & Out. I hope the city will reconsider and put something more appropriate in. I know it's been
difficult to find the right fit but In & Out in this neighbor is not the right fit .
Sincerely,
Carl Schoeneman
71781 San Gorgonio Rd
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
(949) 337-0310
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From: Elaine <elachilds4@aol.com >
Date: September 7, 2019 at 12:09:47 PM PDT
To: jeremyg@ranchomirageca.gov
Subject: ln-N-Out
I personally love In-N-Out, but I think it will only cause traffic problems and take
our city away from the 11 no drive-thru11 status it used to have. I know there's a
drive-thru Starbucks there and Pieology. They' re off the main drag.
This will be A TOTAL MESS, especially, the long lines of cars WE KNOW that In-
N-Out has. The revenue it will bring in will be immense, and that's where the real
problem lies because we know that's what people are thinking .
LOL, if they'd put a traffic cop at the corner of 111 and Country Club, there would
be enough "Don't turn on right" tickets that would bring in a lot of
revenue. Sorry, I couldn't resist .
Please let me know where to write to cast my vote or whatever is needed. I'm
glad I don't live in that part of RM .
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From: Richard Bradshaw <rcbrad@dc.rr.com >
Date: September 7, 2019 at 12:06:17 PM PDT
To: < je remyg@ra nchom i rage ca .gov >
Subject: Proposed In and Out Burger within Rancho Las Palmas shopping Center
Planning Division,
I have been a full time Rancho Mirage City resident since 1991 currently living on Desert Drive near
the proposed In and Out Burger site .
Over the years with the closing of Barbara, Rancho and Desert Drives at Highway 111 and significant
remodeling and new residential construction we have become a quality low traffic neighborhood. I am
adamantly opposed to the In and Out commercial project at the proposed location. There is no question
in my mind that there will be increased crime, noise, trash and traffic congestion in our otherwise
peaceful neighborhood . With the first burger sold our property values will take a significant hit. The
Rancho Las Palmas egress onto Magnesia Fa lls is poorly designed and "near miss" prone. Joshua Road
and Magnesia Falls Road will be a major entry path for those in need of a burger, fries and a soft
drink. These two roads were not and are not designed to handle that amount of traffic. Our current
elected City Council has time and again demonstrated the ability to do the right thing for citizens of
Rancho Mirage. They need to cance l this project in order not to degrade our neighborhood and quality
of life. Please forward this email on to the entire Planning Commission and City Council in a timely
manner.
Thank you,
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Richard Bradshaw MD
72359 Desert Drive
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
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From: Joel Wh itlock <1vnthd1070@aol.com>
Date: September 8, 2019 at 11:27:54 AM PDT
To: jeremyg@ranchomirageca .gov
Subject: Traffic noise
Dear Jeremy,
We are writing about our concerns regarding the potential of having an ln -N-Out Burger in our
neighborhood. We are already annoyed at the the traffic noise behind our property on Park View
dr. Cars fly up and down at high speed disregarding the speed limit. We recently listed our house due to
the noise but had little interest due to the road noise which was the only complaint. The thought of
having probably the most popular fast food restaurant close will only make this problem worse.
Regardless of what happens with the ln -N-Out the speed limit needs to be lowered and speed bumps
installed to cut down on the noise on Park View.
Thank you for your consideration since this is a major problem.
Joel Whitlock
Donald Handel
72383 Barbara dr
Rancho Mirage
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Inn out
I live in the neighborhood closest to the proposed building. Here are my concerns.
People(foot and bicycle traffic)and cars taking a short cut using Magnesia Falls Drive and Joshua. Maybe close off the
road with a wall so it's not possible?
If the traffic increases on Joshua so will the accidents .
There's a lot of bicycle and foot traffic there and no real designated safe route. There's a partial sidewalk and a big blind
area. It could be me walking my dog or cycling. Lawsuits will follow.
There's a residential street within a hundred yards or so from the proposed site.
No one wants that in their front yard. Especially with the huge amount of traffic it will bring. It will be nuts!
There are probably better locations in Rancho Mirage but aren't a vacant pad.
Please don't throw our neighborhood under the bus.
Not only do we live here but our business is here too.
Our neighborhood already has enough issues with vacation rentals so much so that it's becoming a virtual hotel here.
Please save our neighborhood for those that live here and don't let the dollar signs of tax revenue cloud your judgement
and leave our nice neighborhood to plummet.
Thanks,
Dana Brown
Rancho Road
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Deborah Lazio <brah lazio@gmail.com >
Friday, September 06 , 2019 1:23 PM
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
Deborah Lazio
In and Out Burger Rancho Mirage
I am opposed to the proposed Rancho Las Pal mas shopping center location for any fast food, drive through chain
restaurant.
My concerns include:
A decrease in property values due to an unacceptable increase in traffic immediately next to our neighborhood. Studies
have shown heavy traffic near residential tend to reduce property values.
Increased l ight pollution coming from any fast food location also concerns be greatly.
I am hoping the City of Rancho Mirage will explore other poss i ble locations that would be closer to the existing industrial
areas near Interstate 10? I believe that would be an appropriate location for an In and Out Burger.
It is my opinion that the Rancho Las Palmas shopping center is lacking in amenities (including shade) but don't believe In
and Out to be a good fit or solution .
Thanks,
Deborah Lazio
Magnesia Falls Cove/Estellita Drive
Rancho Mirage, CA
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Jeremy Gleim, AICP
In and Out Burger
I object to the proposed location location of the in and out burger at 111 & Magnesia Falls. The issues I believe warrant
further consideration is the traffic on Joshua and Magnesia as well as that area of 111. Environmental issues with more
cars idling waiting in line as well as at traffic signals close by. Our air quality already suffers. I hope there are other areas
that can be offered to them that doesn't require cars to use residential streets to get to the fast food restaurant. The
possible increase in crime and litter is also a concern . I moved here (Magnesia Falls Cove) over 30 years ago. I have seen
many changes during this time-mostly positive. One thing that has always been impressive is the "fast food" businesses
have been kept away from 111 allowing small businesses. Not only has this policy allowed small businesses-/restaurants
a chance it has kept our city pristine. I hope this policy or whatever has restricted this type business be kept in place or
at least keeping businesses of this type away from areas that place a residential community qat risk.
Thank you.
Respectfully,
Jeanette Bellaci
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Jan lotto <jlot50@gmail.com>
Wednesday, September 11, 2019 6:14 PM
Majna Dukie
In and Out
High traffic, late hours, potential with increased traffic that will eventually attract criminal element. Streets off of Hwy
111 are not built to handle the potential increase in traffic. Joshua and Magnesia may potentially turn into dangerous
streets with increased traffic. There are many other businesses that would be a better fit for the proposed location . I
highly disagree granting permits to build In and Out at said location .
Jan Lotto
60 White Sun Way
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
Jan Lotto
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Desert Valley Services, Inc.
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53-603 Polk Street Coachella, CA 92236
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Michelle Yount <drmichelleyount@gmail.com >
Tuesday, September 10, 2019 11:25 AM
Majna Dukie
In and out
My husband and I are Rancho Mirage residents and want to voice our opposition to having a fast food restaurant on
highway 111.
Our concerns are about traffic and crowds at the intersection proposed.
The integrity of Rancho Mirage is being compromised by this proposal.
We have fast food restaurants in Cathedral City near by or near the freeway.
We do not approve of this proposed site.
Richard Greenthal
Dr. Michelle Yount
The Springs Country Club
Rancho Mirage, CA. 92270
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DR GUYE KATZ <gekatz@msn.com>
Saturday, September 07, 2019 4:27 PM
Majna Dukie
Proposed InNOut Burger Franchise in Rancho Mirage
As a new resident of Rancho Mirage living in the immediate area of the Proposed lnN Out Burger franchise, I want to
express my sincere concern about the negative impact of such franchise being located as proposed.
The proposed location of the establishment is in a already high traffic congestion area involving Hwy 111, Magnesia
Falls road, and Joshua which is already hampered by speeding vehicles (which already has speed bumps) and Bob Hope
Drive .. We live at the intersection of Joshua and Magnesia in a gated community which has already been hampered by
local crimes from traffic in that area. Though nearby Starbucks and CVS pharmacy do infact have "drive through
windows", The volume of traffic which current backs up from local In N Out franchises in La Quinta and Across 1-10 is
substantially greater and would likely lead to back up into Magnesia whose angled intersection cannot support. There
are significant traffic safety concerns regarding drivers who already make improper crossing turns from Magnesia into
the shopping center. The proposed location with only a 2 lane Magnesia cross street will result in traffic backed up into
Magnesia street and Hwy 111 . Adding a high volume traffic franchise in this closed angled residentail area will
absolutely lead to increased accidents in this area and a danger to pedestrians in the immediate area. Having a
franchise open till 1 am in our residential neighborhood will lead to increased trash in the street areas and likely
increased crime in the area as well. There already is a nearby lnNOut franchise just down the road on 111 in La Quinta.
Consideration should be made for an alternative location in the Cathedral City commercial areas where larger street
patterns and 4 lane cross streets could better support the high traffic volume . We must also acknowledge that the
placement of a low budget food establishment immediately adjacent to a higher value taxed residential neighborhood
will cause a necessary devaluation of property values.
AS a neighborhood resident of Rancho Mirage living within imminent traffic and crime impact of this proposed food
establishment, I wish to express my strongest objection to permitting construction of this high traffic, low cost food
franchise in my neighborhood
Respectfully,
Guy E Katz
64 White Sun Way, Rancho Mirage
gekatz@msn.com
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Jackie Moore <jackiemoor@aol.com >
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Majna Dukie
In-N -Out Burgers(Rancho Las Palmas Shopp i ng Center)
Please consider the detrimental effects on ou r families and homes if you allow ln-N-Out Burgers in out
neighborhood . There are so many other less invasive places this business can build in .
T hank you for any consideration you are able to give us
T & J Moore
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Majna Dukie
In-N -Out
I apologize that did not write you name when calling .
My name is Mark Perlmutter. I own 72252 Rancho Road . I would like to express my dismay at the prospect of
another drive thru in a city where they are not allowed; despite CVS and Starbucks . I sincerely hope the City will
consider the impact on those of us who expect to be able to have the peaceful life we expect and deserve. The
impact on property values warrants looking at by a legal mind . I walk that route to CVS , the bank, etcetera. It is a
pretty sure thing that one of us gets hit with the added traffic . I realize that progress is inevitable . There are things
that might make the change more livable and financially viable for those of us that will certainly loose property value.
Have the City wall and gate our community . Give resident access to the streets with chains and gates. There is a
wonderful fountain right there also. Add a turn arrow to get out. Add sidewalks where people turn in to Goodwill and
the other direction to shopping area the other direction toward White Sun ; expand the speed bumps around the
corner. With the neighborhood open only to residents it solves the problem . If they cannot get out they will not
come back that way. With CVS, Starbucks, and 1-N-Out you should put an Officer to enforce the rules for
crosswalks. You 'll make money . Add a pedestrian bridge someplace by Goodwillyou will save lives and enhance the
community.
I hope that someone with your skillset could guide our community not to the commerce in it, but also for those of us
that have continued to add value to our community . It seems that there is an opportunity to make our community
very special and coexist with ln-N-Out.
Mark Perlmutter
72252 Rancho Road
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
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Faye van Boxtel <fayevb@yahoo.com >
Tuesday, September 10, 2019 12 :03 PM
Majna Dukie
No IN-N -Out Burger Please
I live in White Sun Estates (off Magnesia Falls & Joshua) and am distressed to learn that there is a
possibility of putting in a "fast food" restaurant on the corner of 111 and Magnesia Falls.
With the college being down the street and the additional traffic that would occur the entire
neighborhood will be impacted . Both from the noise as well as the traffic, not to mention the smell
(yes, the fryer oil does smell). We already have many restaurants closeby at the River and can hear
the noise there in the evenings (not too bad) ... but this will be will be a constant assault. We have a
number of speed bumps on Magnesia Falls, however this is often only encouragement to speed over
them so speeding cars can fly over and bottom out.
More traffic would be dangerous. There are no sidewalks on Magnesia Falls and the only place to
walk ourselves or our pets is on the roadway.
Please consider the impact on the other restaurants there as well ..... I'm sure there is a better, more
appropriate place to put the IN-N-OUT Burger than in this location.
Kindly,
Faye van Boxtel
45 White Sun Way
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
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Monday, September 09, 2019 5:49 PM
Majna Dukie
taschner.scott@gmail.com; Jeremy Gleim, AICP
Online Petition -Proposed In n Out
Can you please share my Change.Org online petition with your Planning Commissioners?
will be following up with a letter in opposition to the project, and am hoping to take a few
hours off of work to make public comments on Thursday.
http://chnq.it/ZP48ZjGB8V
Thanks,
Scott
Scott Taschner I Senior Planner
Office: (7 60) 329-6411 ext. 256 Fa x : (7 60) 288-0639
City of Desert Hot Springs
65950 Pierson Boulevard, Desert Hot Springs, CA 92240
www.cityofdhs.org
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Dear Jeremy Gleim;
Kutay Egilmez <kutayozulu@gmail.com>
Friday, September 06, 2019 11:35 AM
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
Re :In-N-Out Burgers in Our Neighborhood
I reside in Magnesia Falls Development, right across from Rancho Las PalmasShopping Center.
Please consider the impact of a "drive -through" might bring to our quaint and quality neighborhood . Such as ;
1) The resulting increase in traffic on Joshua and Magnesia Falls such as students from the College of the Desert
and residents in large the apartment complex's.
2) Increase in late night t raffic on Joshua and Magnesia Falls (l n-N-Out closes at 1 :00 a .m . 7 days a week).
3) The environmental impact report prepared by ln -N-Out claims there will be hundreds of daily v isitors using the
drive through . This will lead to more congestion on Highway 111 as well as Magnes ia and Joshua which are used as
a short cut's .
4) Speeding on Joshua and to a lesser degree , on Magnesia Falls -this is a safety issue ; it's already a problem .
5) Increase in crime due to the greater car and foot traffic -this is already a problem in ou r neighborhood .
6) Additional trash is certain to be an issue by careless patrons taking a short cut through the neighborhood .
Do we really want to see a place like this in this quiet community. Our area is a lready getting to be very tourist
impacted and this project will only make it worst.
When we moved to this community , we we re told fast food restaurants/businesses were not allowed. Believe me ; I
enjoy ln-N-Out personally.
I hope you will reconsider these facts and at least considering to eliminate the drive-through from the project will
keep most of the issues at bay. Since In -and-Out custom cooks each order, the drive-through lines are often
extremely long and contribute to congestion in the parking lot. Alas , depend ing on the design onto the road when
the line backs up on to the street. If the restaurant were eat-in only, that ought to slow the crowd.
I thank you in advance , for you consideration.
Sincerely
Kutay Egilmez
Resident of Magnesia Falls
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exacerbated by the late closing at 1:00 a.m.
How America's Drive-Thrus Serve Robbers, Drug Dealers and Other Criminals
By M.L. Nestel 4/27 /19 at 1:26 PM EDT Newsweek
https://www.newsweek.com/fast-food-drive-thru -bank-arrest-felony-lane-st i ng-fb i-restaurants-secur ity-1376132
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ln-N-Out Drive Thru Lines Are a Public Menace, and Here's How They Can Be
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Residents living near the proposed restaurant will suffer a decrease in
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The proposed restaurant is in conflict with the Rancho Mirage vision
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"The landscape of the City's streets and public areas will present a pleasant,
recognizable, citywide theme. It will be the premier location in the Coachella
Valley for first class shopping, entertainment, cultural and dining
opportunities. Its architecture will be outstanding and appropriate for Rancho
Mirage."
"Future land uses will be designed to be compatible and harmonious with one
another. Residential neighborhoods, commercial and business areas, resorts
and public places will be pleasing to the eye, well maintained and safe."
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Minneapolis Becomes the first major American city to ban new
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Palm Desert drive-thru ban stays for now
By Sherry Banks, Desert Sun January 22, 2015
https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/2015/01/22/palm-desert-drive-thru-fast-food -
restaurants/22202037 /
Amended in 2017 to allow drive throughs under conditional use permit in
select locations -not Hwy 111, not with egress or ingress onto Monterey
Avenue.
Cathedral City wants an ln-N-Out by 2019. Will it happen in any desert
cities?
Kristin Scharkey, Palm Springs Desert Sun, August 10, 2018
https://www.desertsun.com/story/life/food/2018/08/10/n-out-open-any-new-locations-palm-springs -
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Isaiah Hagerman (isaiahh@ranchomirageca.gov)
City Manager, Rancho Mi'rage
69-825 California Highway 111
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
Jeremy Gleim (jeremyg@ranchomirageca .gov)
Director of Development Services, Rancho Mirage
69-825 Highway 111
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
ATTORNEY
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RE: ln -N-Out Burger Restaurant -42-560 Bob Hope Drive
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1800 E. Tahquitz Canyon Way
Palm Springs, California 92262
T (760) 322-2275 • F (760) 322-2107
b a uer@sbemp.com
(Rancho Las Palmas Shopping Center)/ C .U.P . Case No . CUP 19007
City Council Meeting Oct. 3, 2019
Dear Messrs. Hagerman and Gleim:
Our office represents certain homeowners in the Magnesia Falls Development in
connection with the City of Ra _ncho Mi.rag~'s consideration of a proposed ln-N ..a Out Burger
drive-tnrougn restaurani in rhe Ra11cr1u Lq~ Pc:ik,;ci,:o Sth,,iJpli'i g Ce ntt:. !o.;E.!·d ~t 12 f.51) ~~b. -·
Hope Drive, C.U.P. Case No. CUP 19007 (the "Proposed Project.''.) .. . -.. .
It is our understanding that despite serious concerns raised before the Planning
Commission at its hearing held on September 12, 20.19, regarding the Proposed Project's
traffic, noise, hours of operation , etc ., it was nevertheless recommendation for approval by
the Planning Commission on a vote of 4-0, with one abstention. This decision, apparently,
was based upon, in part, the Planning Commission Staff Report's conclusion that Proposed
Project " ... would not result in any significant effects relating to traffic, noise, air quality ...
. " We are informed that the Proposed Project will be considered by the Rancho Mirage City
Council for final approval at its next scheduled meeting on October 3 , 2019 .
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We are concerned on several fronts that a project of this magnitude and impact is
being considered without sufficient notice to adjoining homeowners and residents. Most
laypersons would find it extremely hard to believe, given the widespread knowledge of the
busy and late-night operations of an ln-N -Out fast-food restaurant, that the City Staff
believes there would be no significant effects to traffic and noise from the Proposed Project
located, as it would be, in one of the busiest intersections in the Coachella Valley . A
Proposed Project of this sort will attract hundreds of patrons, and their automobiles, will have
adverse impacts every day until the late evening (1 :30 a.m. as we understand it). Since the
impact of these potential problems would detrimentally inure to residents of the adjoining
neighborhoods it seems very reasonable and fair that those same homeowners be given a
reasonable opportunity to both review the Proposed Project and be allowed to provide
meaningful input into the Council's consideration before a finaf decision is made.
While the City did provide very limited notice to person and entities impacted by the
Proposed Project, it appears plainly that notice was not provided to most homeowners who
would be significantly impacted by the Proposed Project. Specifically, the City provided
notice to surrounding homeowners but we are told that the notice only went to approximately
four (4) homes who are situated less than 500' from the Proposed Project. By comparison,
there are approximately 120 homes situated in the adjoining Magnesia Falls Development.
While the vast majority of these homes do not technically fall within the 500' radius that the
City provided notice to, most of these homeowners, including our clients, are intensely
interested in, and they and their property values will be impacted by the Proposed Project.
Therefore, we believe elementary precepts of due process, i.e. notice, fair play and an
opportunity to be heard, are involved here. See, e.g., Horn v. County of Ventura (1979) 24
Cal.3d 604.
ln-N-Out has devoted its corporate resources and had considerable time leading up
to applying for the Proposed Project. In contrast, impacted residents and homeowners were
not, in many cases, even notified of the Proposed Project prior to the September 12, 2019,
Planning Commission meeting. Moreover, since receiving notice of the Proposed Project
via word-of-mouth, our clients have only recently requested documents from the City
p~~!"S!..l-¥1t to x PLJbUc qecords Act ("PRA.") The documents requested pursuant to the PRA
may not even be received, let alone reviewed, before the October 3, 2019, City Council
meeting.
We therefore now respectfully request that the City continue its consideration of the
Proposed Project from its October 3, 2019, meeting for at least 60 days until its first
December meeting, so as to allow homeowners and residents to review the above
documents, consider more thoroughly the impact that the Proposed Project will have on
traffic and noise, among other things, and provide additional information for the Council's
consideration. The Proposed Project should be approved, or denied, based on its merits.
Palm Springs, CA
T (760) 322-2275
SLOVAK BARON ElVIPEY MURPHY & .PINKNEY LLP
Indian Wells, CA Costa Mesa, CA San Diego, CA
T (760) 322-9240 T (714) 435-9592 T (619) 501 -4 540
www.sbemp.com
Princeton, NJ
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However, before that decision is rendered, and made final, our clients should be given a
meaningful opportunity to be heard in the process .
Sincerely,
'Cruce T 'Cauer
Bruce T. Bauer, Esq.
Robert L. Patterson, Esq.
CC: Mayor Iris Smotrich (iriss@ranchomirageca.gov)
·u. Dana Hobart, Mayor'ProTem (danah(ro,ranchomirageca.gov/
Richard W. Kite, Council Member (richardk@ranchomirageca.gov)
Charles Townsend, Council Member (charlest@ranchomirageca.gov)
Ted Weill, Council Member (tedw@ranchomirageca.gov)
Palm Springs, CA
T (760) 322-2275
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Indian Wells, CA Costa Mesa, CA San Diego, CA
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Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
FW : In & Out Concerns & Reasons We Oppose
Jeremy Gleim, AICP
Development Services Director
Phone: 760-328-2266 Ext. 262
E-mail: jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov
69-825 Highway 111, Rancho Mirage, California, 92270
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From: Glenn Brodie <brod ieglenn@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 1:26 PM
To: Jeremy Gleim, AICP <jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: In & Out Concerns & Reasons We Oppose
As long term Rancho Mirage residents and who has served this community helping to build it, we have serious concerns regarding the
in & Out going into Rancho Mirage Bob Hope Drive.
Aside from the general complaints the Rancho Mirage residents have already posed, you guys at the City of Rancho Mirage are
forgetting one thing . Construction. As a General Contractor (we had a B license for 25 years acting as a sub, retired, didn't like it , then
went back into the industry under another B license as a Sub), any GC would back me up our statement once building begins "the
homeless will come". it doesn't matter how well you secure a building, they break into the buildings under construction sleeping and
living in these buildings leaving trash everywhere urinating in them .
Property Values Will Be Severely affected making it harder to see our homes
Severe Increase In Traffic as the vicinity will be used by everyone from college students, late night partiers, bartenders and servers,
kids hanging out late at night which isn't safe , late night foot traffic, and the the homeless as a cut through too In & Out increasing the
crime level significantly.
As it is stands now our neighbors are getting hit with credit card and identity theft issues breaking into locked mailboxes which will only
get worse due to late night foot traffic until 1 :30am .
We on th e left side of Barbara h ave problems with people crawling over our back walls and fences which will only get worse. We don't
bother to contact the police any longer. T he city won't build allow u s to increase wall and fence height for this purpose and for noise
control of people hauling down on Parkview. Why we need "speed bumps" on that street.
Not to mention th e mess the CVWD created for this side of our street with the wash that will no longer drain. Every time we get rain
storms we have to replace three pool pumps at $900 a piece . All they had to do was drill a little hole with a pie coming out in to the wash in
the back of these homes . Unfortunately the pumps have to be lowest part of the property for the th e pumps to prime.
This In & Out will cause congestion on 111 causing more accidents .
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Not only will our crime increase in our are but w ill trash and transient activity which will cause health issues with trash urination, and
defecating on the sidewalks.
While we all love In & Out Rancho Nfirages long standing loya l community members concerns takes precedence over a fast food chain that
can be relocated to a more suitable location.
Glenn Brodie
Lyn Nauenburg
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Friday, September 13, 2019 10:36 AM
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Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
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E-mail: jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov
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From : Debbie Donaldson <dd3515@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 5:24 PM
To: Jeremy Gleim, AICP <je r emyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: In and Out Burger
Hello, Jeremy,
I live in White Sun Estates at the very end of Magnesia Falls Drive . I just got home from the Planning Commission
Meeting.
I am not in favor of the In and Out Burger fast food/drive through restaurant being built on that corner. I do not think
Rancho Mirage should allow ANY Fast food restaurants in the city. The traffic on Magnes ia Falls Drive and Joshua Road
will increase t o a point of being extremely dangerous and it is already a problem!
Please listen to the Rancho Mirage residents who live in the affected area. Our quality of life will be compromised! No
to IN and OUT.
Respectfully,
Debra Donaldson
35 White Sun Way
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From: Rebecca Lucas <desertliving@ymail.com>
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To: Jeremy Gleim, AICP <jeremyg@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: In and Out Burger
To: Jeremy Gleim
Director of Development Services
Re : Proposed In and Out Burger in Rancho Mirage
Please submit our opposition to the Conditional Use Permit for the building of an In and Out Burger in Rancho
Mirage .
There are numerous negative issues that this proposed fast food chain will bring with its establishment in the town of
Rancho Mirage . Here is just a few that have been brought to our attention.
1) The resulting increase in traffic on Joshua and Magnesia Falls (for example, students from the College of the
Desert and residents in large the apartment complex on Parkview will take Joshua to Magnesia as a short cut
throughout the day). 2) Increase in late night traffic on Joshua and Magnesia Falls (ln-N-Out closes at 1 :00 a.m . 7
days a week). 3) The environmental impact report prepared by ln -N-Out claims there will be an average of 754 daily
visits using the drive through. This will lead to more congestion on Highway 111 as well as Magnesia and Joshua
which are used as a short cut. 4) Speeding on Joshua and to a lesser degree , on Magnesia Falls -this is a safety
issue; it's already a problem . 5) Increase in crime due to the greater car and foot traffic -this is already a problem in
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our neighborhood. 6) Additional trash is certain to be an issue by careless patrons taking a short cut through the
neighborhood.
We think it is a positive attribute to live in a town where not everything is welcome particularly a fast food chain that
stays open till 1 in the morning in an area where people start the day early and covet their peace and quiet.
There is an obesity epidemic in the US. In and Out Burger and other fast food chains are a proven contributing
factor. Instead of looking at the tax revenue in the short term more municipalities should think of the long term health
impact and limiting this type of "food" option.
The public has not been well informed on this matter. We just learned of this project through our NextDoor App .
Please do NOT push this through with out proper public input which should require the city officials to make the
proposal widely known to their constituents( media , radio , etc. ).
Thank you in advance for considering these points.
Rebecca and Robert Lucas
The Springs
Rancho Mirage
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From: Jeanne Macwhirter <mbjirene@icloud.com >
Date: September 13, 2019 at 7:50:38 AM PDT
To: iriss@ranchomirageca.gov
Subject: In and out
I'm sorry I missed you at the meeting yesterday! Apparently you reside far enough away from the
proposed in and out, that it doesn't concern you! Our street, Magnesia Falls to Joshua has had
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increased traffic, mail box thefts, break ins, etc. since the remodel of Las Palmas shopping plaza! We
needed a super market, not a hobby lobby, or Steinmart! The drive through Starbucks should have not
have been allowed! Now you want to ruin our quiet neighborhood with a trashy drive through open to
one AM! We will be calling the police every day! This is terrible and will warrant a class action
lawsuit! Shame on you and the rest of your group! Time to change the city council! Thank heavens for
Dr. Hirschberg and Dr Reinhardt and their support! This ridiculous proposal and the impact on our
community cannot be tolerated! Jeanne Macwhirter
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Subject: in and out
I am VERY AGAINST the conditional use permit to build a new drive through in Rancho Mirage at the proposed
site of highway 111 and Magnesia Falls.
This is a high residential area with limited access. Creating additional thru traffic would be detrimental to our
residents .
There are a numerous number of reasons including but not limited to
Late night traffic, environmental impact, increase in crin1e, neighborhood disruption.
Please note that I am firmly against this change in our neighborhood.
Thank you
Audrey Warshawsky
72211 Barbara Dr
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
760 -861-6536
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Subject: In N Out Burger Rancho Las Palmas
As much as I adore the burgers and fries, the traffic and parking in that complex and the excessive Hwy 111
traffic going West will be detrimental and cause lots of congestion for people turning onto Bob Hope as well as
others trying to access the stores already in the complex. It just does not seem like the right place, the right fit
for this restaurant because of the congestion it would create -and the late late night closing which will affect
homes nearby.
Thank you for taking into consideration my thoughts.
Jan Slawson
C.206 .949 .4526
53 Sunrise Drive, Rancho Mirage. CA
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Just FYI ...
From: Harry Marshak <harry.marshak@gmail.com >
Date: September 18, 2019 at 12:36:21 PM PDT
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Subject: In N Out
Hi Iris,
I hope all is well with you. Sorry to email on your personal email.
We heard about the possibility of an In N Out burger franchise at Magnesia Falls and Hwy 111. I wanted
to reach out to you and give you our opinion.
We live in Magnesia Falls Cove. Wendy and I don't think it's a good idea to put an In N Out franchise on
the corner. We drive past that corner every day. We think it will add a lot of traffic and isn't the right
place aesthetically for a drive-through burger place. Every other In N Out always has a very long line of
cars at the drive-through.
Thanks for your time. Shana Tova!
Harry Marshak
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From : Rob Smith <robsmith68@gmail.com>
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Subject: In N Out
Dana,
I just left the public comments event regarding In N Out at City Hall (Planning Commission).
As my councilman I wanted to write you with a couple thoughts .
In my opinion, the proposed location for this iconic fast food chain is a major step in the wrong direction for our city.
Rancho Mirage residents have homes roughly 150 feet away . This establishment stays open until 1:30 am. This is not the
lifestyle that we have long associated with living here.
Traffic cut throughs down Joshua and Magnesia Falls will escalate dramatically further upsetting the lives of this RM
neighborhood.
As you may recall, I live on Barbara Dr. I am 100% opposed to this location for In N Out.
I am actually a huge fan of the business .... just not at the proposed location.
What happened to the city ordinance forbidding drive through fast food chains??
I could go on and on ....
I hope the city makes the right choice instead of chasing the almighty dollar.
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Subject: Inn -N-Out
Madame Mayor and esteemed Council Members.
I was unable to attend the City Council Meeting where discussion was held regarding the proposed ln-N-
Out burger location at Rancho Las Pal mas SC.
I would like to make my comments below:
I have been a Rancho Mirage resident since 2005 residing at 204 Kavenish Drive . I have also been a
resident in Thousand Oaks CA and Costa Mesa CA, living close to ln-N-Out locations in both
communities.
I know ln -N-Out has a loyal following and this will be a tough decision.
I am very concerned regarding your possible approval of this location. One of the reasons I chose to live
in Rancho Mirage was due to the fact I would not be inundated with fast food drive thru restaurants. If I
need a fast food fix, I could always go to Varner Road or Monterey but hwy 111 was free and clear.
Living in Thousand Oaks and Costa Mesa (both locations in shopping centers) I observed major
congestion as traffic backed up on artery thoroughfares during peak times. With ln -N-Out that's most of
the time. In addition ln-N-out (whether done intentionally or just normal operations) puts out a very
strong smell of onions. Very enticing, but do you want t his at Rancho Las Palmas SC and the nearby
homes.
I always considered Rancho Mirage as a very upscale community, similar to Highland Park in the Dallas
area . I assure you that Highland Park would never approve an ln-N-out.
I know we are all grateful for what the developers have done at Rancho Las Palmas SC but I think
another type full service restaurant would be a much better choice for this pad location. I am also
worried about the p recedent this location would send to other developers that would want a location
on hwy 111 in Rancho Mirage. How could you tun them down without litigation .
Please do not just look at the tax revenue or pleasing the Rancho Las Palmas SC owner.
Do what you always have and make a decision based on the good for all Rancho Mirage residents.
Thank you for allowing my comments to be heard.
Gary Bruton
204 Kavenish Drive
Rancho Mirage, CA
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Importance: High
Dear Director Gleim,
We appreciated the opportunity to participate in Thursday's Planning Commission Meeting at Rancho Mirage
City Hall. We also appreciate that there is more than one point of view on the placement of a fast food drive-
through at the corner of 111 and Magnesia Falls Drive. The shopping center and its tenants have made
significant investments and, without traffic and customers, stand to go out of business. That said, the
homeowners along Magnesia Falls and the surrounding streets have also made significant investments in their
properties and do not want to see these devalued by the installation of a burger joint at the end of our street.
Outsiders and added traffic, irrespective of the quality of the hamburgers , will reduce the value of our homes .
Based on the dialog and ensuing vote, we get the impression that our comments went on deaf ears . The
decision to approve the application had apparently been made long before we had the opportunity to voice our
concerns.
As concluded by a minority of Planning Commission members, the key issues for homeowners are the traffic
and associated crime that this increase in traffic will bring . Living directly on Magnesia Falls Drive, we are
already impacted by traffic cutting through Park Lane and Joshua as a short cut to Highway 111. Despite the
claim by the ln-N-Out representative , cars already cut through our neighborhood to avoid traffic lights . While
the speed humps help, drivers use these streets to cut through, especially at peak traffic times. They often
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reach high speeds on Joshua and bypass the stop signs and humps on Magnesia Falls with two wheels .
Irrespective of any study or claim, the ln-N-Out will bring more and not less traffic volume to our streets .
As part of the traffic mitigation, we request that the ln-N-Out development plan include a provision to terminate
Magnesia Falls Drive at the shopping center entrance . This mitigation will eliminate at least incremental
vehicular traffic in either direction and should be mandated as a condition of development. Included in the
termination of the street, consistent with the neighboring roads, Desert, Rancho and Barbara , Magnesia Falls
should also be closed to motor vehicles .
The hardscape and landscape of this new area can be extended from ln-N-Out. Maintenance should remain
their responsibility in perpetuity. Signage, "Not a Through Street" should be added at the corner of Park Lane
and Joshua to discourage drivers seeking a short-cut.
Thank you for your consideration and please share this email with the other Planning Commissioners.
Erick & Arliss Wolf
72377 Magnesia Falls Dr.
949 .388 .3671
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Subject: ln-N -Out Burger Location
Importance: High
Dear Director Gleim,
We understand through our community association that the City of Rancho Mirage has conditionally approved
the building of an "ln-N-Out Burger'' at the corner of Highway 111 and Magnesia Falls Drive .
Our home is located at 72377 Magnesia Falls Dr., in the direct path of eventual customers that will use Waze
or Google to find a short cut from Park View Dr. via Joshua St. While we enjoy a hamburger as much as
anyone, we cannot support a massive increase in through traffic on our now relatively quiet residential street. I
support a free market, but this decision to install a very popular burger joint at the end of our street is
misguided at best. The increased traffic and pedestrians wandering around the neighborhood will be
intolerable .
As a group, we are very concerned that our property values will suffer and eventually will to take the steps
necessary to recover this cost.
We would appreciate that the Planning Commission put itself in our shoes with the imposition of extra traffic
and the associated bad elements this new business will attract to our quiet neighborhood.
Short-term rentals are bad -this is worse. We ask that you reverse your conditional approval and find a more
appropriate location for this business .
Thank you for your consideration .
Erick and Arliss Wolf
72377 Magnesia Falls Dr.
Rancho Mirage , CA 92270
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From: Jim Elliott <jimdelliott3 @ gmail.com >
Date: September 23, 2019 at 3:42:37 PM PDT
To: tedw@ranchomirageca.gov
Subject: In-N-Out
Councilman Weil;
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You may recall that I spoke at the Council Hearing last Thursday regarding the proposed In-N-Out Burger
Restaurant proposed for the Las Palmas shopping center -and no doubt you know I am very opposed to
it. To be clear, it is not about In-N-Out and the benefit such a restaurant could have for the city -that is a
separate debate. My primary concern is the location -and my opposition is not simply a matter of "not in
my backyard." There are 128 nearby homes that will be directly affected by increased traffic both in cars
and on foot as late as l :30 in the morning. People, and cars will be using Magnesia and Joshua as a short
cut -they do it now and it's problematic.
I noticed that you mentioned the high standard of excellence for Rancho Mirage -this also includes
protecting the life style many ofus have worked very hard to attain and maintain. Respectfully, I submit
you and your fellow council members have a moral responsibility to the residents that is on the verge of
being compromised.
I served three years on a city council in another state. I won my election largely on the basis that I pledged
to protect the neighborhoods and frankly, not let uncontrolled or unwise growth compromise the quality
of life as has happened in many areas of Southern California. I ran unopposed for my second term before
moving back to California . Prior to that, I was on our Planning Committee.
I would be more than happy to meet you at the proposed site and show you exactly what our concerns are
-the closest home is literally 153 feet away. l encourage you to vote against approving the project.
Respectfully,
Jim Elliott
72447 Magnesia Falls Dr.
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
Cell phone: (760) 220-2621
Email: jimde11iott3 @gmail.com
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September 19, 2019
Rancho Mirage City Council
69825 Highway 111
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
Dear Council Members Iris Smotrich, Dana Hobart, Richard Kite, Charles Townsend and Ted Weill,,
I am writing concerning the proposed In N Out Burger fast food to be located at the corner of Magnesia
Falls Drive and Highway 111. I live on Magnesia Falls Drive so I am totally aware of the problems we
already face. I understand people will be directed out of the mall via Magnesia Falls Drive. People
exiting the mall believe they have the right of way and never even look to see if there is oncoming traffic
from Magnesia, they cut you off to get in the left lane to go East on Hwy. 111. They also ignore the no
left hand turn lane and, of course, come hood to hood with a vehicle entering the mall.
This is just one of the minute problems that will arise from this proposal. Homeowners on Magnesia
Falls, White Sun Estates, Joshua, Rancho, Barbara and other streets in this immediate area will be
massively affected. Getting out of their driveway will be one of them. Many have to back out of their
driveway onto Joshua and Magnesia, this will be essentially impossible with added burger traffic. There
will be numerous accidents.
It has been stated by a council member that the Bob Hope/Highway 111 junction is one of the busiest in
the valley, you have the traffic coming off hwy 10, out of the River Mall, and the local neighborhoods.
Yet you propose to add hundreds of cars a day, if not thousands.
I understand the traffic study was done by In N Out in July/ August, two of the least populated months of
the year. A traffic study done in January should be required and completed by the city to accurately
assess this location.
I listened to a woman who stood up at the City Council meeting of Sept. 13 and stated she had used her
life savings for her business and I sympathize for her, but over 300 homeowners have also put their
savings into their homes which will be devalued when the roadways are redesignated high density from
the current low density and their property values plummet.
We all want the Mall to succeed, a dead mall only brings vagrants, rats etc. However, the object of a
Planning Commission is to decide which vendors best suit the given area and neighborhood. In N Out
says it is a family owned business that is community driven. There is NO community consideration in the
selection of this location. The Applebee corner is a block West,, a perfect location.
I actually feel like I am living a bad dream, I wake up at night thinking about the implications on my life,
how they have been devastatingly altered by a few people, who I cannot believe, are voting in the
people's interest. The city can get it's tax revenue no matter where the location for Inn Out is. This
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mall needs a grocery store more than any other business, it would maintain the integrity of this
community.
When I moved to this area 18 years ago I thought it very inconvenient to exit the mall and have to take a
right, cross highway 111, make a U Turn, cross back over 111 to go home on Magnesia. When I inquired
as to why there could not be a 4Way Stop at this exit from the mall I was told, "The speed bumps and
"right turn only" were to protect the integrity of the neighborhood." What happened to this "integrity?"
I also believe that the 26 cars that In N Out state will be in line for a burger will back up past the
entrance from 111, cut off the flow into CVS, and be a constant source of tempers and frustration. From
what I have read, there are many more than 26 cars in line at any one time. This situation will lead to
individuals at odds with one another, anger which never results in pleasantries, and auto accidents
exiting via Magnesia Falls.
I am asking you to PLEASE reconsider another location for a fast food chain that will be so terribly
invasive on our quality of life, our values to our homes, and our frustration with a constant flow of
hundreds of cars a day taking a short cut from Park View, via Joshua, up Magnesia Falls, to get to the
mall for a burger.
Thank you,
Maggie Lockridge
72185 Magnesia Falls Dr.
Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
760 568 4039
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To Whom It May Concern:
I've heard many people speak of a certain magic that exists here. And that fact itself, that there is a magic here, is notable .
Because the desert is too big to have a small town charm but also too small to offer the sort-of stirring thrills of a big city. So
the desert lives in a sort-of in between . And when thinking of other Southern California places that are not small town or big
city, I think of all those places between here and Los Angeles : Beaumont, Redlands, Rancho Cucamonga, etc. And yet the
desert has not been handed the same fate as those cities. Those indistinguishable places with nothing to offer but fast food .
Yes for so long the desert has asserted itself as something very different.
There is an essence here which is sacred . There is an essence here which I love like one loves a family member. The magic
here is not just in the mountains and the sky, you can feel it in the summer air, you can feel it in businesses like Natures Cafe,
Mollers Gardening Center and Sub King . They all seem to contain the spirit of this place. And so in recent years when dri ving
on Highway 111 in Palm Desert and seeing the new flood of chain restaurants, I am brought to an almost mourning state, as if
seeing a loved one mutilated. We seem to be moving one step closer, with every chain restaurant, or, to be more specific :
with every place that is not of or relating to the desert, to being just another one of those "on the way to la" places .
And I can't help relating this current situation to something like seeing a loved one being forced to get cosmetic plastic
surgery . Forced to replace a part of themselves, with a part foreign. One step further from their essence, from what makes
them beautiful and unique. It doesn't seem to be a coincidence that in big cities you can't see the stars. And while the
situation here may not be as extreme as building a skyscraper, the effect is the same . The effect being: suppression of
character, suppression of beauty. And so being against the Inn Out being built is not a matter of rejecting change, it's a matter
of defending the desert spirit.
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I admit that you could call all of this just "a matter of taste". And with that, one may turn to those more concrete arguments
against this In n out being built, like the increase of speeding, pollution and crime. But I believe those are all secondary
concerns . The fact is, most of us are living here because of taste. And if we continue to allow uninspired foreign elements to
compromise our desert, it will forever lose it's true character, that unspeakable beauty, that thing that makes it, for a lot of us,
our favorite place on earth . I hope that this is taken into consideration .
Thank you,
Jalen Warshawsky
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Majna Dukie
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
Saturday, September 14, 2019 11 :53 AM
Jeremy Gleim, AICP; Majna Dukie
FW: Traffic noise
Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
. City Manager
Phone : 760-324-4511 Ext 232
E-mail : isaiahh@RanchoMirageCA.gov
69-825 Highway 111, Rancho Mirage, California, 92270
www .RanchoMirageCa .gov
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From: Joel Whitlock <lvnthd1070@aol.com>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 10:28 AM
To: Isaiah Hagerman, CPA <isaiahh@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: Fwd: Traffic noise
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: Joel Whitlock <lvnthd1070@aol.com >
Date: September 8, 2019 at 11:27:54 AM PDT
To: jeremyg@ranchomirageca.gov
Subject: Traffic noise
Dear Jeremy,
We are writing about our concerns regarding the potential of having an ln -N -Out Burger in our
neighborhood . We are already annoyed at the the traffic noise behind our property on Park View
dr. Cars fly up and down at high speed disregarding the speed limit. We recently listed our house due to
the noise but had little interest due to the road noise which was the only complaint. The thought of
having probably the most popular fast food restaurant close will only make this problem worse.
Regardless of what happens with the ln -N-Out the speed limit needs to be lowered and speed bumps
installed to cut down on the noise on Park View .
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Thank you fo r your consideration since this is a major problem .
Joel Whitlock
Donald Handel
72383 Barbara dr
Rancho Mirage
760 969 3413
Sent from my iPhone
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Majna Dukie
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Kristie Ramos, CMC
Thursday, September 26, 2019 10 :52 AM
Jeremy Gleim, AICP ; Majna Dukie; Sylvia Nino
Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
Subject: Fwd : Letter to Ranch Mirage City Council Members
Please see below .
Sent from my i Phone
Kristie Ramos, CMC
City Clerk
Phone : 760-324-4511 Ext. 488
E-mail : kristier@RanchoMirageCA .gov
69-825 Highway 111, Rancho Mirage, California , 92270
www .Ran choMira geCa.gov
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Begin forwarded message :
From: Judy Hathaway <judy@escrowplusinc.com>
Date: September 26, 2019 at 10:45:58 AM PDT
To: Iris Smotrich <iriss@RanchoM i rageCA.gov>, Dana Hobart <danah@RanchoMirageCA .gov>, "Richard
W. Kite" <richardk@RanchoMirageCA .gov>, Char les Townsend <Charlest@RanchoMirageCA.gov>, Ted
Weill <tedw@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Cc: "Isaiah Hagerman, CPA" <isaiahh@RanchoMirageCA .gov>, "Kristie Ramos, CMC"
<kristier@RanchoMirageCA .gov>
Subject: Letter to Ranch Mirage City Council Members
September 26, 2019
To: Rancho Mirage City Council
From: Judith Hathaway 72089 Magnesia Falls Drive Rancho Mirage, CA 92270 760-449-0171
Dear Madam Mayor and City Council Members,
My name is Judith Hathaway. My address is 72089 Magnesia Falls Drive, Rancho Mirage, CA.
My parents lived in Rancho Mirage on Desert Drive and that is where I grew up. This is why I
chose to purchase my current home on Magnesia Falls, because I loved living in Rancho
Mirage. I am now the homeowner who will be the most negatively impacted by the proposed
In and Out Burger location.
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My family home is located 140 feet from the proposed site. I find myself at a complete loss of
what to do in this situation, however, I must trust the good people of the RM City Council to
know that I am devastated at the proposed location so close to my home and that you will
help.
I am requesting/inviting each one of you to visit my home in person and stand in my entry
way and look over and acknowledge the closeness of the proposed site to my home BEFORE
the meeting scheduled for October 3rd. Would you personally consider and feel comfortable
yourselves living this close to a fast food drive thru restaurant?
I invite you to come inside my home as well to understand what I have built for my children
to grow up in. The backyard was designed for privacy with lots of room for outdoor activities
which we enjoy with friends and family.
I just cannot accept the impending nonstop daytime and nighttime traffic up until 1:30 am
past my house which includes my children's bedrooms that are located on the front of our
home, the car headlights beaming into their windows, the glowing neon signs, the exhaust
fumes, the smell of grease and onions, the shouted out food orders over car engines snaking
their way through the drive thru, and the delivery trucks scheduled after 2 am.
I think you understand how upset I am. I will lose financially and I will lose the quiet
enjoyment of my own home. That's just not fair.
I ask that you will seriously consider choosing another location in Rancho Mirage for the new
In and Out Burger establishment that everyone including myself can support.
RSVP requested for RM City Council members home evaluation before Oct 3rd
Yours truly, Judith Hathaway
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Majna Dukie
From:
Sent:
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Subject:
Sent from my iPhone
Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
Sunday, September 15, 2019 1 :43 PM
Jeremy Gleim, AICP; Majna Dukie
Fwd: NO to in and out fast food on our quiet street
Isaiah Hagerman, CPA
City Manager
Phone : 760-324-4511 Ext . 232
E-mail: isaiahh@RanchoMirageCA.gov
69-825 Highway 111 , Rancho Mirage , California, 92270
www.RanchoMirageCa .gov
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Begin forwarded message:
From: Iris Smotrich <iriss@RanchoMirageCA.gov >
Date: September 15, 2019 at 1:39:01 PM PDT
To: "Isaiah Hagerman, CPA" <isa iahh@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: Fwd: NO to in and out fast food on our quiet street
Iris Smotrich
Mayor
Phone : 760-324-4511 Ext . 203
E-mail : iriss@RanchoMirageCA .gov
69-825 Highway 111 , Rancho Mirage , California , 92270
www .RanchoMirageCa .gov
TRANSPARENCY NOTICE
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the California Public Records Act (Government Code section 6250, et seq.)
From: Rod DeOcera <roddeocera@icloud .com >
Date: September 14, 2019 at 5:13:08 PM PDT
To: iris s@ ranchomirageca .gov
Subject: NO to in and out fa st food on our quiet street
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Dear Mayor,
Please deny the proposal to put an in and out w/ drive through fast food place on our
quiet street, Magnesia Falls Drive.
Fast food in residential communities has been proven in all accurate data to destroy the
neighborhood; much more traffic, pollution, crime, noise, transients and surrounding
property values will surely go down. The proposed in and out is literally 150 feet from
someone's house! It has no place in a neighborhood, especially one like ours that is one
of the last relatively quiet, safe non-gated communities in all of Rancho Mirage.
Our street is a fairly quiet one. Perhaps 150 cars a day? Probably less. With an in and out
at the end of our street, you would literally change the entire dynamic of the
neighborhood and for the worse. We would get 1000 cars but likely, much more every
day. I can barely walk my dogs now without people sometimes speeding by me. I pick up
litter on the road. Each year it gets worse. With a fast food place right up the street, the
quiet enjoyment of our neighborhood will be obliterated overnight.
As I write this, you supposedly cannot make a left turn unto magnesia falls from
magnesia falls plaza, but people do it all the time. They go down a one way street, the
wrong way, and make an illegal and very dangerous left turn unto magnesia falls from
that shopping center. It is very unsafe . People already go over 50 miles an hour, on
Joshua road because there are no speed bumps. People rarely stop at the stop signs at
the end of magnesia falls and Joshua road. This is a quiet, relatively high end, totally
residential area. It must be protected and this cut through traffic has to to mitigated not
increased exponentially.
The talk of allowing a fast food restaurant to be built literally right in our front yard
seems very irresponsible.
The money in and out brings will go right to their corporate headquarters and not stay
in our community. Please do not let in and out build so close to a thriving and
established residential area. There are plenty of other locations throughout the city that
could make more sense.
At the council meeting last week there was almost all opposition but I have to say the
few people that were for it didn't even live in Rancho mirage. One sounded like a paid
corporate plant with an agenda who talked about the history of the fast food chain
instead of its impact on our community. It was so suspicious. One man compared in and
out to Mimi's, Applebee's or chili's. That is so ridiculous and misguided. Those are all sit
down restaurants with waiters, that close at a reasonable hour and were off a major
street not a neighborhood side street. They also have no drive through. In and out is no
different than a Mc Donald's or a Burger King. It is fast food.
The data presented at the meeting was questionable at best, especially the information
supplied to your team directly by in and out. They are grossly under estimating the
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traffic. Makes you think, what else are they grossly under estimating or manipulating?
All you have to do is google "in and out traffic" and see for yourself. Much of what in
and out provided at the meeting was presented for their benefit and to minimize
scrutiny or additional studies, surveys or reports .
Please don't let this go any further. It would destroy our neighborhood.
Our politicians, planning commission and city council members need to think how they
would feel if they could see an in and out w a drive through open till lam w/ workers in
there past 1:30am from their living room window. With all those people driving up and
down their once safe and quiet street all day and into the wee hours of the night? How
would you feel if your once cozy neighborhood was handed that kind of blow? A fast
food place right at the end of your little side street that is already getting too crowded
especially in season.
I have owned a second home in the desert for over 15 years. My dad lives here. My
mom died here. I love Rancho Mirage. Please don't take that feeling away from me .
Thank you for your time. Please see several articles below:
Yours truly,
Rod
https://www.washingtonpost .com/archive/opinions/1985/06/23/fast-food-in -our-
neigh borhood/ 4 7 d 17bce-55 7b-455b-948e -905b0acaf32a/
http://citizensforsensiblegrowth.com/lines lines .html
https://www.lamag.com/digestblog/n-drive-thru -lines-public-menace -heres-can-
st opped/
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/ln -N-Out -burger-Campbell-traffic-
13 11 1617.php
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/07 /25/i n-n-o ut-bu rge r-proposa I-could-fry-traffic-
city-study-says/
https://www.latimes.com/archives/1a -xpm-2008 -mar-13 -me -burger13 -story.htm1
https://www.sandiegouniontribune .com/business/restaurants/sdut-in-n-out-burger-
coming-to-town-2013mar22 -story.html
https://www.viamichelin .com/web/Traffic/Traffic info-Encinitas -92024 -California -
United States
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Majna Dukie
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Murrey Morrow <mmjnw@dc.rr.com >
Thursday, September 12, 2019 4:56 PM
Majna Dukie
In and out
I love the burgers but completely disagree with the placement of this business in the lap of homeowners . I ama RM
resident but don't live near the site. I worry that violating the peace and quiet of some residents will set precedent and
eventually lead to more abuse.
Thanks for your listen i ng to my opinion.
Murrey Morrow
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Majna Dukie
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Julie Henthorn <jhenthorn@aol.com>
Thursday, September 12, 2019 4:51 PM
Majna Dukie
In and Out
A fast food drive through restaurant does not belong in a residential neighborhood PERIOD. I hope the commission will
do its job and put the neighborhood and it's residents FIRST and vote this project down .
Julie Henthorn
1 White Sun Way
RM
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Majna Dukie
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Good afternoon,
Kristie Ramos, CMC
Tuesday, September 24, 2019 3:45 PM
Jef Timms
RE: Resident San Gorgonio rd
Your message has been received and will be provided to the City Council as part of the staff report package for the
subject project.
Thank you,
Kristie Ramos, CMC
City Clerk
Phone: 760-324-4511 Ext. 488
E-mail: kristier@RanchoMirageCA.gov
69-825 Highway 111, Rancho Mirage, California, 92270 www.RanchoMirageCa.gov
-----Original Message-----
From: Jef Timms <jtinrm@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 3:41 PM
To: Kristie Ramos, CMC <kristier@RanchoMirageCA.gov>
Subject: Resident San Gorgonio rd
I have been living on San Gorgonio Rd. for the past 25 years I think it would be a huge mistake to allow a chain l ike ln-N-
Out Burger to come to our charming town This year inconvenience of the extra traffic as well as the smell from their
cooking kitchen would be terrible for people who live in our neighborhood Sent from my iPad JefTimms
71763 San Gorgonio rd
Rancho mirage Ca 92270
760*408*1604
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Petition Opposing ln-N-Out at Las Palmas Sho pping Center
Madam Mayor & City Council members.
It has come to the attention of mysel f and a handful of the property owners living on Magnesia
Falls and Joshua Road that the Planning Commission will be considering a Conditional Use
Permit application for a proposed late-night, drive-thru restaurant (In-N-Out Burger) on the
comer of Magnesia Falls Drive and Highway 111. My neighbors and I are extremely concerned
about the traffic and noise that will be generated by the project. We all like ln-N-Out burgers but
lets be honest, this is not a good project for this site. It has always been a sit down restaurant,
and we believe the site is just too small and too close to residential uses to be compatible with
the immediate neighborhood.
We would like the Commission and City Council to be aware of the growing public outcry and
to, at the very least, continue the item to a date uncertain, to require that the applicant prepare a
traffic study conducted in season, prepare a noise study, and to advise staff to expand their
notification to include all property owners on lower Magnesia Falls and Joshua Road . The
property owners would also like me to express that exempting the project under Section 15332
(i n-fill projects) of the California Environmental Quality Act guidelines is in appropriate due to
the fact that the project WILL have an impact on Noise & Traffic (see Section 15332(d)). To
prove my point -they say a picture is worth a thousand words. That being said, take a look at
the (link) photographs showing how In-N-Outs can impact their surroundings (or Google Inn
Out traffic pictures, for yourself). Please look at the aerial images showing the stacking of
cars/traffic. This is not a "less than significant" impact nor will being open until I A.M.
adjacent to the quiet residential street. There are also recent stories I have read on the crime and
trash generated. Please keep our City a worl d-class city and site projects like this in more
appropriate locations.
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To the Mayor and City Council Members of Palm Springs, CA
Re: Proposed ln-N-Out Burger
GFFiCE Of THE CITY CLU J ,
Agenda item November 1 st, 2017
I strongly oppose the proposed In-N-Out Burger at the corner of Palm Canyon and
Sunrise. I actually love their product and will travel far to find one of'their outlets
but this is not the place for them.
The Historic Site Preservation Board has appropriately addressed the architectural
issue but I have several additional concerns.
First of all the In-N-Out Burger outlets tend to be a little garish partially due to the
red neon treatment around the top as.well as their signage. It will definitely
negatively affect the character of the attractive Western style Smoke Tree center. It
will also hurt the town's image, which at one time forbade any type of drive-through
restaurants.
Secondly, there are major traffic and parking issues. Being quite familiar with
several In-N-Out Burger outlets their popularity generates major traffic and parking
problems. The inter section of Palm Canyon and Sunrise would definitely have
difficulty absorbing the additional traffic. It is already strained to the max, as is the
parking lot.
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In Sherman Oaks the traffic on the Moorpark location often is literally around the
block obstructing through traffic. And at the studio City location on Ventura
Boulevard the cars are often tandem parked in the parking lot. I would be happy to
supply pictures. This is definitely not the location for an In-N-Out Burger Drive
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RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
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Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, purs uant to State law, a Non -Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non -Agenda
Public Comments .
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your pre sentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
Name: 1/ fi < -Y--a '-A IJ-SD t2_} ~t/; A ,v~( Date: October 3, 2019
Address: Lj 30ct 4 »[ <£2 k4uA /2::to , RV\
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Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Agenda Item No.: _5_ Topic: In -N -Out B u rgers ' Din Favor ~pposed (l)l.!:
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non -Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a s ubsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'Tfiank. you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE: CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
~
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non-Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non -Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor call s your name, p lease go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
October 3, 2019 Name: {.-:J~LA_ lie S co r Z / "e I I Date:
Address: Jtrt 1-5 fr1 0 5
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Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Agenda Item No.: _s_ Topic: In -N-Out Burgers Din Favor OOpposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non-Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'Thank you for your interest.
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RANCHO MIRAGE CllY COUNCIL MEETINc0~ .·-#: 2 , .
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM0f A .-rr J
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to spefJ. regarding a · em listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non-Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non-Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) ~inutes.
Na~e: /Jir f 0 5!! t>tR ze i {[ Date: Octobe r 3, 2019
Address: !__"u f 2 5 -!/1 0 J ~
Non-Agenda PublicCo~~entTopic:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Agenda Ite~ No.: _5_ Topic: In -N-Out Burgers Din Favor DOpposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non -Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'Tfiank you for your interest.
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RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING -#-L /,
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM . T
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding an 1 em listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, purs uant to State law, a Non -Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non -Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
Name: YJm Crc{Lvford Date: October 3, 2019
Address: 1J L-;12 0 57 f:e (/;fro..._
Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic: --------------------------------
Agenda Item No.: _5_ Topic: In -N-O ut Burgers Din Favor DOpposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non -Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'Thank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
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Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non-Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non -Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three {3) minutes.
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Name: /)a vI d s--Ia kes Date: October 3, 2019
Address: 'i-/3 (f ~-ah~\~ Rood ) Kavtcho A!liVct~ eft-4~~ -
Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic: --------------------------------
Agenda Item No.: _s_ Topic: In-N -Out Burgers Din Favor OOpposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non -Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
Thank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
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Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non -Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non -Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes. .
Name: A-tJ t1 e tN; /ll c.l~c~'fer Date: October 3, 2019
Address: 1 /-S' 17 2x:v -/J C<£11. .. <
Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic: --------------------------------
Agenda Item No.: _5_ Topic: In-N-Out Burgers Din Favor DOpposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non -Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
Thank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non-Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non-Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, p lease go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
Name: ----vv , , , <~ ..__., .. 1,-, . ,. ;
Date: October 3, 2019
In-N-Out Burgers Din Favor OOpposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non-Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'lhank you for your interest.
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REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM ?___)
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non -Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non-Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
Name: (R /Jl itJ f/11~ Date: October 3, 2019
Address: r '7 1 (o 2 0 bs:T?IIlh {);e_ rc 7J1
Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic: --------------------------------
Agenda Item No.: _s_ Topic: In-N-Out Burgers Din Favor DOpposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non -Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'I'fiank. you for your interest.
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RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING A( (J ~ #Q
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM ;:_j'j~ . f /
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to spjj"'fe\~rding a 1tem listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non -Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non -Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginn i ng your presentation . The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
Name: /Jrnc: Co!Gtrnarr Date: Octobe r 3, 2019
Address: 7/ ~b~ /cznq,;er,.-12oad
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Non-Agenda PublicCommentTopic: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Agenda Item No.: _5_ Topic: In -N -Out Burgers Din Favor OOpposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non -Agenda Pub l ic Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Counc i l may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'Tfiank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
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Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Public Comment period is
included at the beginning of each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during the Public
Comment period.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor cal l s your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three minutes. ,. . c; ._-.;>
Name: ___ \ ·l r ---t-( ( o1' Date: I o~b -lCi
Address: 7 ;;L <-£ '1-1 IJQ: ~ 1\Q..":J ~ 1-~{(~_}1 ~'. ~,
Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic: /o ~ f,J ,, &u<-----~~~~~--------------------~--------
Agenda Item No.: Topic: ~11 r-UU-T Din Favor ;¢opposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Public Comment portion of the
agenda. The City Counci l may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it may be
scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'T'fiank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Publ ic participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non-Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non-Agenda
Publ ic Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
Name: ; V1 m=· ~J 0 hf'./ > 0 cJ Date: October 3, 2019
Address: 7 3 I ~ ( !SG'Lr /411L {2o;1!) PMpVj fJfi~~ ;CA
Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Agenda Item No.: ~S~ Topic: In-N-Out Burgers ~ Favor DOpposed
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Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non-Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'I'Fiank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non-Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non-Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
Name: -
Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic: --------------------------------
Agenda Item No.: _5_ Topic: In-N-Out Burgers Din Favor ~pposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non-Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'T'fiank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE: CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Pu blic participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizen s are invited to speak regarding any item listed
o n the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Public Comment period is
included at the beginning of each agenda . Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during the Public
Comment period.
If you wish to address the City Counci l, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor cal ls your name, please go to the podium . State your name and city of
residence before beginning your pre sentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three minutes.
Name:· y /Jac::;:r-6/L.-Le-vrtdy e Date: /cJ /J /!?._
Address: 7~/~ /?fo~~5/Q ~5 :::Or
Non-Agenda PublicCommentTopic:~.~~~~~~~~~~~~ •. ~~~~~-~~~-·-~~/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Agenda Item No.:~~ Topic: :z;;:i d c;:2 U r Din Favor ~Opposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Public Comment portion of the
agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it may be
scheduled for a subsequent City Counci l agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'I'FianR. you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE: CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Public Comment period is
included at the beginning of each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during the Public
Comment period.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginni p{g J; yur resentati,cm. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed th"i/e-m utesf.
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Agenda Item No.: __ Topic: ~/11' 0 /1/l L /9-7.4 ;f---Din Favor DOpposed
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Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Public Comment portion of the
agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it may be
scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'I'Fiank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE: CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Public Comment period is
i ncluded at the beginn i ng of each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during the Public
Comment period.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting . When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three minutes.
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Name: ;0, ll.t I! <_ )~ Cc, II v-WPV 1-"; ,JS.; ' 1 --·l ·
Address: 11 90Ef /!?J:r 1 'I / \v<-V ,-" ,lf"vfJJ .. ""J.ff /
Non-Agenda PublicCommentTopic:~·L·~·~-~~~~·~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Agenda Item No.: __ Topic:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-uzrin Favor OOpposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Public Comment portion of the
agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it may be
scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'I'Fiank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non-Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non-Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium . State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes. ,
Name: (tt-w,rJ GvC-1 Date: October3,2019
Address: rs ~ f~f) 5-r}Z.rl-vr---) f; I )e1v,VJ [) l (/1.4' q oi,.,'1?
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Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Agenda Item No.: _5_ Topic: In -N-Out Burgers ~Favor OOpposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non-Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
Thank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non -Agenda Public Comments
sect i on is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non-Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, p lease go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) ~inutes.
Na .... e· 3rt"\ (\(l I A 'e 1. ofY\-f r October 3, 2019 ... • , J . vv ~ , Date:
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Address: y 2 z__ s (j Ba~ Ho(\JC De~ ve \(Q.I\Oh o-V) I (''~ t
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Agenda Ite~ No.: _5_ Topic: In -N-Out Burgers f)Dn Favor DOoposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non -Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
7"fiank. you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non-Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non-Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, p lease go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
Name: Y;' i ~/I ftZJ t _x_ Lc~ rrrf Date: Octobe r 3, 2019
-:z_ i ~,I --~-1C\ /'~'" :r Address: ·c ~-_/ 0 r.J i )Uf ( (2 Y . I rrJ. t?. tV1 (A Cz'? zh.
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Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Agenda Item No.: _5~ Topic: In -N -Out Burge rs Din Favor bi'ooposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non-Agenda P !f~c &mment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administra,t1ve action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please s~e the City Clerk.
'Tiiank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non -Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non-Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, p lease go to the podium . State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) ~inutes.
Na~e: ' ucl fhrSct.L Date: October 3, 2019
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Address: ? ·J '/( ( /Q/~,.,;f U !i ~
Non-Agenda PublicCo~~entTopic: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Agenda Ite~ No.: ~5~ Topic: In-N-Out Burgers Din Favor DOpposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non-Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'Thank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non-Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non-Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, p lease go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
Name: \\b -1\\ f__ ~~C'j _ Date: Octobe r 3, 2019
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Address: ~ 6\D \...)C~'b~~\f ':jt_ \ ·. l)-. .
Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic: .:.:s=-~-\\;·-uo\::_ D 0\(~5
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Agenda Item No.: _5_ Topic: In-N-Out Burgers Din Favor 'KIOpposed
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Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non-Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'lfiank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE: CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Public Comment period is
included at the beginning of each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during the Public
Comment period.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three minutes.
Name: CJ_/9/:if) A\tV~r\ Date: _\0----""--{)---v-::.[l ....;,..__J __
Address: ~;\U J_G) rl-~
Non-Agenda PublicCommentTopic=~-'~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Agenda Item No.:~ Topic: M:\.~Q~ 'Jd .---' Din Favor~
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Public Comment portion of the
agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it may be
scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
Tfiank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE: CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non -Agenda Publ ic Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non -Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor call s your name, please go to the pod i um. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
Name:~ ... /aleV) t/a /r~q L./j·7:( t-;; Date: October 3, 2019
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Address: :? (.___. '--L--J I ~ _...-_.6 ~-"" ....:, P/, 'v ~
Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic: ---------------~--------------------
Agenda Item No.: _5_ Topic: In -N-Out Burgers Din Favor QqO pposed
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Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non-Agenda Pub l ic Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
Thank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non-Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non-Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
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Name: I -+-+-'~~.._,;..;...;.__ tk!UPC:f' Date: October 3, 2019
Address=----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic: -------------------------------
Agenda Item No.: _5_ Topic: In-N-Out Burgers Din Favor DOpposed
Under State law, the City Counci l may not take action on matters raised under the Non-Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'ffiank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE: CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non-Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non-Agenda
Publ ic Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes .
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Name: t::-rn \ ~ f t\ (11(\ Date: October 3, 2019
Address: '1~~\f-Co Runr\oo fZd.
Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic: --------------------------------
Agenda Item No.: _s_ Topic: In -N-Out Burge rs Din Favor ~Opposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non -Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
Thank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE: CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council . In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non-Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non -Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three {3) minutes. (. .
Name: ffii)Y lli.jQ ~l -~ \1 ~. Date: October3,2019
Address: ~7 ~i:£Vl LOJ~ ::;2 ~ Non-AgendaPublic~men~ic:_~~~--~~-----------~~------~
Agenda Item No.: _5_ Topic: Favor OOpposed
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Under State law, the City Council may no e ma t ters raised under the on -Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'I'Fiank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL M€€TING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non-Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non-Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
res idence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
Name: ~£_ tfk:-. l-Jih-Date: October 3, 2019
Address: +fi(XJ() &~{) t{/11yC[t\l {; P /2
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Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic:
Agenda Item No.: _5_ Topic: In -N-Out Burgers Z' Favor OOpposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non-Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
Thank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non-Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non-Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
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Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic: --------------------------------
Agenda Item No.: _5_ Topic: In -N-Out Burgers Din Favor yopoosed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non-Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
Thank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE: CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Publ ic participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non -Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non -Agenda
Publ ic Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
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Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic: ~
Agenda Item No.: _5_ Topic: In-N-Out Burge rs Din Favo~eosed I)
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non -Agenda Pul:>li.f Comm~
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative ac--ti.QD.r<>r it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'Tfiank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Publ ic participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non-Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda w i ll be heard during Non-Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fil l out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeti ng. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium . State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
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Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic: -------------------------------
Agenda Item No.: _5_ Topic: In -N -Out Burgers Din Favor 0 opposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non-Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Counci l agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'T'Fiank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CllY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non-Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non -Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three {3) minutes.
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Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic: --------------------------------
Agenda Item No.: _5_ Topic: In-N-Out Burgers Din Favor 06pposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non-Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Counc i l may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
Thank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCil MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Public Comment period is
included at the beginning of each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard duri ng the Public
Comment period.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fi ll out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
res idence before beginning-y our presentation. T~:u! policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed thre"e minutes. -· J //
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Agenda Item No.: __ Topic: £-A~/jce:{ -(~I{_>'Lfl ~ ,_//YL--f):::i)l?~avor DOpposed
Under State law, the City Council may not tctl<e action on matters raised under the Pub l ic Comment portion of the
agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it may be
scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need add itional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'T'Fiank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non -Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non-Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
Name: WAll \{ Md ~d £2--Date: Oc tobe r 3, 2019
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Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic: --------------------------------
Agenda Item No.: _5_ Topic: In-N -Out Burge rs Din Favor OOpposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non-Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
'Tiiank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Pu blic participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non-Agenda Public Comments
section is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non-Agenda
Public Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out this form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
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Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic: -------------------------------
Agenda Item No.: _5_ Topic: In-N-Out Burgers Din Favor DOpposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non-Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
Thank you for your interest.
RANCHO MIRAGE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM
Public participation is welcome at all City Council meetings. Citizens are invited to speak regarding any item listed
on the agenda prior to a vote of the City Council. In addition, pursuant to State law, a Non-Agenda Public Comments
secti on is included on each agenda. Comments on matters not on the agenda will be heard during Non-Agenda
Pu blic Comments.
If you wish to address the City Council, please fill out th is form and submit it to the City Clerk prior to the start of
the City Council Meeting. When the Mayor calls your name, please go to the podium. State your name and city of
residence before beginning your presentation. The policy of City Council is that individual presentations not
exceed three (3) minutes.
Name: 5 vd \~e, H--8hcl I bY'"' Date: October 3, 2019
Address: ________________________________________________________________________ __
Non-Agenda Public Comment Topic: -------------------------------
Agenda Item No.: _s_ Topic: In-N-Out Burgers Din Favor DOpposed
Under State law, the City Council may not take action on matters raised under the Non-Agenda Public Comment
portion of the agenda. The City Council may refer your concerns to the City Manager for administrative action, or it
may be scheduled for a subsequent City Council agenda. If you need additional assistance, please see the City Clerk.
Thank you for your interest.